Make up your mind on matching and ranked.

Polaritie·6/13/2014, 4:56:46 AM·11 votes·424 views

Why do I have to play against people who are multiple leagues above me for 50+ games to actually get put into that level?

If my rating is consistently gold, and I'm constantly playing gold players, why do I have to trudge through all of bronze and silver game by game (at a 50% win rate, since roughly even matchups) before I'm placed into gold?

It seems to me that either I should only be playing against other bronze/silver/whatever, and thus move up faster by virtue of dramatic skill difference, or my rating should put me into gold without regard for promo series and such.

The chief issues with the current system, as I see it: 1)In theory the difference between LP changes for winning and losing when your rating is well above the league should cause you to move up steadily. In practice, promo series completely ignore this difference and in practice flip it entirely. Assuming matchmaking is working, a promo series is just flipping a coin to see if you advance (due to matchmaking working for 50% win rates).

2)Promo series have outsized importance. If your rating is enough above the league that you get 3-4x the LP for winning as you do for losing, why do you lose 50 LP for two losses in series? Shouldn't it just be 8-10 (or less, if you have a win in there)?

In general, I feel promo series are completely antithetical to the concept of having long term records be what matters. Frankly, I think it would be better to just make LP go from 0-150, and when you hit 150 you move up. (I add 50, since on average you need two promo series to move up, no matter whether you're a bronze player in bronze or a platinum player in bronze)

2 Comments

Zielmann6/14/2014, 2:12:44 PM2 votes

They actually added a feature in this season such that if you are considerably higher than what your league status shows, you can outright skip promos and move up. However, it sounded like it would be fairly uncommon. What you're more likely to experience is tier-skipping after a promo.

But I totally understand what you're saying. I feel like my friends and I are kinda stuck in a similar situation for our ranked 5's team. It's to the point where we just won't play it anymore, which is especially unfortunate, given the changes to rewards and the main emphasis on team play. We basically stopped playing ranked 5's because we kept getting matched against teams full of players that are significantly better than we are. After a few disparaging losses due to this, we stopped playing. We've now decayed back to Silver 4 or 5. Follow the downward-spiral trend, and we'd still be stuck trying to claw up from where we've fallen by playing against these same sorts of teams. We'd probably be better off at this point disbanding this team, starting a new one, and hoping for the best.

HazeyInDaHead6/13/2014, 8:34:24 PM1 votes

This and youre also offsetting your team's ELO/MMR because they get this gold level player carrying their bronze silver games