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Garen's Demacian Justice

Ezreal Wright·4/23/2014, 5:37:59 PM·2 votes·91 views

Why does Riot refuse to face the truth? Why the hell does Garen's ultimate have a hyper long cooldown? Just look at his ultimate...

DEMACIAN JUSTICE Deals 175/350/525 magic damage plus 1 damage per 3.5/3/2.5 missing health. Cooldown: 160/120/80 seconds...

160 seconds of waiting just for 175 + 1 damage for 3.5 missing health? Seriously? I can hardly kill someone with 400 HP left with this ultimate ( that's why Ignite is a must on Garen) and I have to wait 160 seconds to retry? Are you serious? Riven got a shorter execute with an AD + range boost. Darius got resets on his ultimate with lower cooldowns and TRUE DAMAGE, Jinx got a GLOBAL ultimate with execute on it with a VERY LOW cooldown (90/75/60 seconds...) Garen got a mere 400 range with an execute that deals MAGIC damage (yes, totally countered by Morgana/Hexdrinker and Garen can't build Magic Penetration to counter Magic resist... Except AP Garen who still didnt get a compensation buff for Lich Banes nerf but 'm not here to talk about this.)

My point is the fact that Garen's ultimate is completely outclassed by Jinx's, Riven's or Darius's.

Reduce the ultimate's cooldown Increase its range (400 range is short.) Change the magic damage (maybe the BONUS damage from the missing health should deals magic damage and the base damage physical/true damage) Add an AP ratio on Garen's Q for Lich bane nerfs please. (Just one of these is okay, but if you wanna apply all of them... c:)

Riot please, buff cute lil garen ;-; he needs your help, do it for THE GLORY OF DEMACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SPIN2WIN KIDS

4 Comments

ILoveTiramisu4/23/2014, 6:33:34 PM1 votes

champion who has strong Q, W, E and passive, don't need a strong ultimate. So I agree. Garen need a buff, but I think a passive more strong.

Tsiddique4/23/2014, 11:01:21 PM1 votes

Don't know why you posted two of the same exact posts..

Manchette4/25/2014, 2:16:34 AM1 votes

You may be wanting more damage on Garen, however by his kit, the dude can't stack damage since he has no hard gap closer to apply the damage to an enemy. Not only this, but his W increases ALL Armor and MR by 30%, which is crazy to ignore. This means that our Demacian friend is meant to be a dedicated tank. You may hate it, but its true.

So, when you compare dedicated fighters (Darius) and duelists (Riven) of course he won't do as much damage. They aren't tanks by nature.

As for the cooldown on Garen's ultimate, I don't think its all that bad - once its been upgraded. If you are ahead, you can buy Ionian Boots of Lucidity to gain 15% cooldown reduction. Add 5% from your masteries in the first tier of the offensive tree and you already have 20% cooldown reduction. Get a Spirit Visage which is almost always seen on Garen anyway and you're at 30%. After that you can take your pick on what cooldown reduction items you want to him.