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Allow us the option to opt out of queuing with premades.

Camphene··2 votes·469 views

A good proportion of premade players are toxic toward the soloque members of their team.

Premade MMR is calculated in an expedient fashion that does not accurately reflect the players combined skill in the game.

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PhoenixUnreal1 votes

I've honestly never experienced this sort of situation.

When my friends and I queue up, we do it as five usually to avoid the exact opposite situation. Most soloQ players are immediately hostile to groups without giving them a chance. It might be caused by them having bad experiences with other premades, but I don't think anything warrants "/all Fuck my team, report these premade whores." We hadn't said anything in chat to him yet; we were on Steam chat.

Camphene1 votes

Your premade is different from 70% of premades. As a soloque player who frequently gets placed with premade teams I assure you, you are the minority.

Dr Clueless PhD2 votes

And this is exactly why we downvoted you. Believe me, this has been talked to DEATH on the old forums. Most premades aren't toxic, but you don't realize it because non-toxic premades usually don't ever make it known they are queue'd together. You'd never know they weren't solo queue players, because they never mention it or gang up on you.

And now you're going to argue, this'll go on until you've gotten the hate out of your system, with nothing ultimately changing, because Riot realizes this very same thing. Premades don't suddenly make people toxic. The problem comes when toxic people queue with their friends who are also toxic. But, you can't penalize everyone who likes to play with friends because of assholes. The downvotes are our way of telling you that we've had this discussion, A LOT, and to just move on.

Camphene1 votes

If it's constantly a point of discussion then why has nothing been done?

Most premades aren't toxic, but you don't realize it because non-toxic premades usually don't ever make it known they are queue'd together.

I know because every game I look at my opponents runes/masteries using lolnexus. It also informs me when I am matched with or against a premade team.

his'll go on until you've gotten the hate out of your system,

It's not hate. If a large number of people didn't like an overpowered champion but a few people really enjoyed that champion it might be in the best interests, despite that small number of people, to nerf that champion.

This is the same situation except in reverse.

Premade teams negatively impact the experience of soloque players. They have a group-think attitude that blames soloque players for the mistakes of the game. They communicate less with soloque players. They do not get matched adequately via the MMR system.

The downvotes are our way of telling you that we've had this discussion, A LOT, and to just move on.

Not moving on. Premades are a problem.

Camphene1 votes

Downvoted but no rebuttal. The system works.

Camphene1 votes

Four downvotes, one comment. The boards are working. Suppress dissent.

Sunfield2 votes

The discussion has been done so many times its not even funny, and the outcome is always the same.

It's like 3 butthurt people against majority that keep insisting their problem is game wide, while it is not.

People downvote without commenting because there is no way to convince you guys. This comment wont do any good either, but its always worth a try... I suppose

Camphene1 votes

There's about 290,000 comments in all threads supporting the option to opt out of premades.

search google for "site:leagueoflegends.com premade" and count the number that do not believe premade teams contribute to the league experience.

That's not 3 people.

The underlying facts are: premades develop a group-think that attributes their failures to the soloque player. The way premade MMR is calculated is also poorly implemented.

With those two points premades are overwhelmingly detrimental to the gaming experience of soloque players.

Sunfield1 votes

People dont care enough to support your case, you are in minority

Those are facts

PhoenixUnreal2 votes

I am genuinely sorry for you, but that's human nature. I do feel sorry and I wish that League could be fun for everyone, every game. I wish you luck in future games.

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