(Pre-30/Premade)Matchmaking is broken.

Camphene·8/17/2014, 6:04:06 PM·7 votes·1,699 views

Here's one example. 1 Here's another. 2 Here's another 3

Here's a whole bunch more.

I could keep going...

Premade MMR is poorly calculated and does not accurately reflect the skill of that premade.

Additionally, when there's two or three gold+ players in a game where everyone else is unranked or sub-30 the unranked players do not have an enjoyable game.

10 Comments

Omnipherious8/17/2014, 7:12:53 PM4 votes

Okay look, this is something you people will not like hearing but you need to. So prepare yourselves.

  1. If you premade, MMR is boosted because it assumes that the improved coordination adds to skill, which is a completely fair assumption for MMR calculations.
  2. People that are Diamond/Plat, don't have very high normal MMR becausethey don't play a lot of normals. Normal and Ranked MMR are separate, for as long as this is true, you are bound to encounter some of them some time in normals.
  3. Unless there is a huge level discrepancy (i.e. 8-10 Level difference across all players), it isn't unfair. You won enough to have your premade MMR that level. This is who you are matched against.

If you want to full premade and have fun, then have some fucking fun. What exactly is the enemy premade doing that is preventing you from having fun? Winning? Beating you? Spoiler alert - Winning is fun.

Guess what, I premade with friends too. When we premade and are getting owned, we laugh. Carry just got bursted so fast we didn't even have time to blink? Let's swap, carries go tank and tanks build carry! Somebody got caught? Maybe we should bring them fishing cause they seem to make good bait. We don't go out of our way to make our friends feel bad or tell them they suck or complain about enemy skill. You want to have fun? Have fun, do whatever the fuck you want. Make jokes, come up with a plan and try it.

If you only complain about facing better opponents; if you are going to bitch and whine when you actually have to play decently to win because your opponents aren't incompetent; you are weak-willed and spoiled. No one is getting in the way of you having fun except you. You want easy wins? Go play a damn coop. You want to play against other players? Learn how to have fun regardless of win or loss because in case you haven't fucking realized, nobody wins all the damn time. Knowing how to take a loss is part of being a good sport.

Sxe8/17/2014, 6:44:50 PM3 votes

It's mostly because low-level people duo with 30's, so now it's trying to balance the game.

Shrikesnest8/17/2014, 6:42:28 PM2 votes

I'm having similar issues, although everyone in my full premades is level 30. None of us are ranked, and yet we're constantly going up against commando ranked teams that ruin us.

I think it gets wonky because there are relatively few full premades queuing together, so it has a much smaller pool to pick from. I really wish they could do something about this, though. I would love to play this game with a full group of friends.

Pushover8/17/2014, 6:28:04 PM2 votes

Definitely a problem, I have a friend who just posted his game, he queued (as a diamond 2 player) up with 4 diamond 1 players as a 5 man premade, got up against a silver 1, platinum 1, an unranked player (silver last season), and 2 level 28 players.

I've seen this problem multiple times as well.

Camphene8/17/2014, 11:48:55 PM1 votes

WTF is this shit?

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Camphene8/18/2014, 8:10:30 PM1 votes

What's up with this? 1

Rito Sheckelberg12/13/2014, 8:36:23 AM1 votes

Based Riot removing premade status check so nobody can call them out on their BS.