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Split Sweeper/Lightbringer into seperate items

Mandaari··3 votes·159 views

Getting really tired of seeing these items be built regardless of whether or not the other team has stealth. Yes, items with map vision help a lot on maps with no form of vision. Yes, the wide variety of stats are helpful in shorter games. Yes, the stealth detection is useful for revealing stealth instead of spamming money on oracles elixers.

But you shouldn't get it all.

If you want the added stealth detection you should be taking a hit elsewhere. One item which can counter an entire of class of champions permanently should not be viable outside that role.

Keep sweeper as is, but remove the stealth detection from the vision and remove the trap detection passive. Then create a parallel of it that grants stealth detection and trap detection, but has worse stats.

Take the stealth detection off of Grez's and Lightbringer. Then do the same thing and add a stealth/trap-detecting parallel of Lightbringer with worse stats. Make it build out of Grez's.

This way you get a choice: Do I want good stats and sight, or am I willing to take a hit from stats in order to counter someone. Right now there's no choice in the matter. You were probably going to build the item anyway, but if you're against stealth you just get the added bonus of stealth detection with no downside.

6 Comments

Cypherous1 votes

People on NA actually build these items?

The only time i ever see them used is on ARAM if the enemy has stealth champs because of the lack of wards, i've not seen it built on SR in god knows how many games, i wonder why this item see's so much use on NA but near zero use on EUW

AKsmknPanda2 votes

Think that might have something to do with the fact that these items are NOT available on SR?

Play some Twisted Treeline and I'm sure you'll see it almost every game, no matter what region.

Mandaari1 votes

Yup. Every game. Doesn't matter if there's stealth on the other team or not.

Cypherous1 votes

Hmmm well i dont play any TT so yeah, i do know riot has different balance changes for TT than SR so i guess if they see its an issue they will adjust the troublesome champions

Mandaari1 votes

It's been an issue since they released the items. Sweeper is already cost efficient without the MS, passive, or active. Lightbringer is gold efficient without the passive or active. The PBE changes right now have some pretty significant stat and cost changes, but according to Riot the intent is to keep Sweeper as a "staple" item. Items that can counter an entire class of champions should never be called staple. Lightbringer was called niche, and Riot wanted it to stay niche. Yet I see Grez's all the time on TT.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lightbringer http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Hextech_Sweeper http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=42117544

Kãtãrinã1 votes

i never see it on NA

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