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Can we change Garen's Ultimate to Physical Damage or True Damage already/

Skaarrjj·7/16/2014, 6:28:38 PM·4 votes·850 views

You know, I Think it's wonderful that there's players out there who don't give a damn about Gold Efficiency, so they just buy a DFG/VoidStaff to get the results out of an Ultimate that anyone who's played Garen should rightfully expect. But it's silly and it's time to reconsider changing the damage type on the ultimate to be favorable to Garen.

Change it to True Damage.

Is it going to allow Garen to Successfully get more kills with his ultimate? Yes. Is it going to break him and spiral him out of control making him the king of top lane? **Hell NO. This guy has a lot of unfavorable matchups, and has critical weaknesses in teamfighting that this change to his ultimate is NOT going to make him ridiculous to play against. **

Sure. Garen doesn't have to build anything to make his ultimate. Sure. That's a good thing. However.

  1. It has a really high cooldown at rank 1
  2. It has 400 range AND a long animation delay. Escape from this ultimate is a lot more viable than other's of a similar type.

Once the thing goes off, it should hurt if used right. Right now the Magic Damage on it hurts it too much.

16 Comments

ChickenWrap7/16/2014, 7:52:21 PM4 votes

To be quite honest, Garen's ult dealing physical damage would make him too powerful and making it True damage makes it a 100% worse version of Darius' ultimate.

If one was to make Garen's ult deal physical damage, it would scale off the LW and Brutalizers some Garen's like to buy and Garen would become an even more powerful champion than before

plus it nerfs DFGaren

The high cooldown isn't so high after you pick up your Brutalizer and if you have the +5% cooldown reduction mastery. ALso if you cast your ult on someone and they flash, it will still go off. It's not in as bad of a spot as everybody makes it out to be.

Cerbearus7/16/2014, 6:31:41 PM3 votes

Garen's issue is not what type of damage it does, it is getting close enough to someone to use it xD

Funster7/16/2014, 6:47:52 PM1 votes

Garen's ult should be Physical Damage... It being magic just makes it more annoying in the early game because you want to build armor to counter Garen but his ult totally bypasses it. It makes it more annoying for Garen later as I imagine he would want to itemize penetration but his ult can't make use of it. If Riven can get an execute ult that she can itemize for, I don't see why Garen can't.

Give it a ratio to encourage offensive builds. Make it physical. Do something. It's terrible as it stands.

KSHarrison7/17/2014, 9:38:34 AM1 votes

How does he deal more damage with a physical damage ult than a magic damage ult? Base armor runs up to 70-80, while MR caps between 30 and 50. The most powerful MR item grants 55 MR, while the most powerful armor item grants 100 Armor.

Even with LW, I don't see you regularly dealing less damage with a physical-based ult than a magic one.

MrSc0tty7/17/2014, 11:46:16 AM1 votes

Naw, just make his spin2win proc Nashors. Then the You're A Wizard Garen build can come to full fruition.