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@Morello, @IronStylus, @Statikk are you happy with Eve's current state?

DemiluniS·3/13/2014, 12:13:19 PM·4 votes·671 views

After Eve's remake she was a tough champion to balance. Over the course of the past 1.5 years she transited from the mid lane to the jungle, from an ap assasin to a full tank as her optimal build and it actually concerns me.

When remaking her Riot tried to keep her old playstyle and add tools so she can be a valuable pick to a team, and they succeeded, she was a relevant pick through this entire time, no matter how many hits she took, she always came back until she took the next hit.

Evelynn is one of the most unique champs thanks to her passive, Shadow Walk, which forces the enemy team to play completely differently.

The problem comes when her passive and somewhat Dark Frenzy are the only abilities that makes her feel like an assasin.

Her Q, Hate Spikes - deals sustained magic damage, which fits a mage champion.

Her W, Dark Frenzy - a movement speed steroid the with a reset that allows her to chase down fleeing enemies and after she finishing them switch to the next target or escape, perfectly fits an assasin.

Her E, Ravage - nuke that deals physical damage and gives her attack speed, fits a bruiser champion.

Her Ultimate - Agony's Embrace - An initiation ability that deal % current health and gives a shield, it's a tank ability by all means.

So from what we see Eve's skillset is a complete mess of abilities which fits different roles, and it just depends on the most strongest ability to decide what role she gonna be played, Let's call it an identity crysis. That's one of the reasons the relauch team can't decide what the hell eve is, she looks like a bloodthirsty assasin, but played as an initiator tank? This isn't the state I would like Eve to be, I want to her to be the assasin I imagine when I see her face in champion select.

TL;DR evelynn got an identity crysis and Riot should make the steps to fix it and finally release her VU.

Thoughts? Discuss

8 Comments

Solanar3/13/2014, 2:50:23 PM1 votes

Evelynn definitely has an identity crisis now. Evelynn is an assassin and should be portrayed as one. She's a stalker, a succubus, and femme fatal. Her entire theme is that of an assassin with magical abilities.

Even though the Pro scene has been playing Evelynn as a tank recently, she still shines as an assassin in the jungle. While AP Eve has become less bursty, AD Eve is very strong and can burst down the squishies on the other team.

When Riot does Visually Update Evelynn (Roit pls), they should keep her assassin theme, and I believe that Iron Stylus has stated that they will not change her theme, but only define it (i.e. make her visually fit her theme).

If Riot wants to get rid of the "Tank Eve" I think they should look at the items before changing anything in Evelynn's kit. Evelynn was always a hybrid champion and players should be able to build her either AP or AD and be successful.

Aeolian Melodies3/13/2014, 9:25:38 PM1 votes

They obviously had an issue with her stealth + high burst. Change after change they made her transition to a more sustained kind of dmg, which requires her to build tankier, and they changed her ult in a way that if you're not initiating with it, you're losing a lot of dmg and shielding for yourself.

She's an assassin with an ult that mathematically cannot kill you on its own, how awkward is that?

dirtymags5/16/2014, 4:36:43 AM1 votes

Although Eve can build tanky I don't believe that you can rly say that shes not truly an assassin because of this. I mean your going and bursting squishy guys regardless. These are just words that have slightly less meaning when you think about what Eve truly is. She's a unique versatile melee carry capable of building pure Ad, Offtank, Tank, Or Ap. Ive done well with almost every item in the shop minus like 8 of them as eve. If your stealth and you sneak behind an enemy half health and make a team sandiwich out of them..well my friends that's assassinating them. Doesn't matter if you have 0 ap 90 Ad and tank shit you bursted them and killed them.. that is the essence of the assassin role. Lets say they did change Eves ult to make her more "assasinlike" (squishy with high damage). Currently her ult does negligible damage, how much damage or utility would justify taking away eves only ability to charge into the frey during a lategame 5v5 teamfight? A high damage ulti that she could use would make her far nore powerful than she already is allowing opportunity for a larger burst earlygame. And personally I would love this but whats next people cry about it OP OP they say. So then they change eve again and reduce the damage ravenge does to compensate for large burst. This accomplishes only one thing.. making lategame a test of tribulation for eve players. The question has never been about the damage or durability she has its the fact that she is stealth all of the time. Ive played thousands of games as this one champ and I enjoy many aspects of her current state. Perhaps if her ult instead made her invisible with movement speed, bonus damage on next attack and some thing new and cool like instant attack animation so that she can have her own niche in pursuing enemies. Idk If your gna focus on anything though.. in this remake she needs to lose the afro. Its ridiculous. Ty for youe eyes any who read this have a good day.