About Doran's shield?

ILoveTiramisu·Apr 20, 2014·2 votes·645 views

After the nerf, Doran's shield still costs 440g. In every situation, Doran's Blade and Ring are better.

11 Comments

TsiddiqueApr 20, 20143 votes

Unless you want health regen and reduced damage from basic attacks.

ILoveTiramisuApr 20, 20142 votes

I mean that item should costs 400g. So you can buy 2 pot. Remember you take it if you are against a ranged champion.

TsiddiqueApr 21, 20141 votes

Then they have to reduce DBlade to 400. If they reduce any of the prices, they have to nerf it even more.

ILoveTiramisuApr 21, 20141 votes

Not really, Doran shield isnt efficient like other. Actually, Ruby cristal is better.

TsiddiqueApr 21, 20141 votes

If Ruby Crystal is better, then build it! It is efficient, it doesn't give combat stats, it gives defensive stats, so it's less noticeable.

AzlagorApr 21, 20141 votes

if they reduce the cost to 400 for a second pot, it would again become a nobrainer save sustain and the previous nerfs would have been pointless. If it needs a buff, then buff the flat dmg reduce vs AAs so it realy becomes the anti AA-harras item it's meant to be.

ILoveTiramisuApr 21, 20141 votes

NP. Doran shield wasn't OP like item, it was OP according the meta.

LichbladeApr 21, 20141 votes

Yer the item is overnerfed, when you compare the cost efficiency to other doran items it really pales in comparison.

RoaranorApr 21, 20141 votes

The problem Doran's Shield intially had is that, even though it was supposed to be picked up for it's defensive capabilities, players were picking it up with the sole intention of going man-mode and it was working. In terms of efficiency, Doran's Shield now accomplishes what it was intended to without overshadowing other item starts (for supports, this is debateable). That being said, I think Doran's Shield is in a pretty healthy place now.

I'll start with top lane. The health regen it gives makes it ideal for passive lanes in which you wouldn't farm the Doran's Blade passive enough to really benefit from it. For champions like Shen, Wukong (in hard counter matchps), Akali (mid as well, sometimes), Mundo, and Zac, this is the preferred choice to Doran's Blade. The passive basic attack reduction also makes this the go to item when going against auto-attack reliant champs like Xin Zhao, Aatrox, Jax, and Irelia as it hits their main (if not only) damage source.

Mid lane, I've seen some melee champions that have poor early game pick it up to mitigate auto-attack harass and it works pretty well. Champions like Akali, Fizz, Diana, etc. Doran's Ring is still dominate, but as it should be for the predominantly AP lane.

As for bot lane, it's still a really viable pick up for supports. It negates a good amount of harass from ADCs and gives them some beefiness (and hp regen). ADCs prefer Doran's Blade because they're focusing on offensive damage regardless.

ILoveTiramisuApr 23, 20141 votes

About Wukong in toplane, I prefer crystalline flask. So, do you mean Doran shield works now? I just think Doran Shield costs too much.

RoaranorApr 23, 20141 votes

I rarely start flask on any champion, but that's a matter of preference. Flask is still a good start if you're planning on taking a beating and are having to recall more than you'd like to. The thing about it is that it literally gives no offensive or defensive stats, only 3 charges of hp/mana recovery. It's essentially saying "I know I'm about to have my butt handed to me, so I brought my own bandages." As a Wukong main, I pick him top lane with the sole intentional of looking for ways to outplay my opponent and win matchups that I shouldn't win on paper. In order to do that, I need the stats to go toe-to-toe or at least close to it with other champions.

In terms of cost efficiency, let's break down the stats of DS and the relative cost of those stats (These will just be rough estimations to show that it's worthwhile for its cost. They will not be exact). Doran's Shield costs 440 gold, and for that it gives 80 health, 6 hp regen, and 8 dmg reduction to basic attacks which, for auto attacks, translates to roughly that of a cloth armor. Ruby Crystal gives 150hp, a little under double what you'd get from Doran's shield but that's all you're getting for 400. We'll take half of this for DS putting us at 200g efficiency. A rejuv bead gives 5 hp regen, 1 less than DS for 180. Now we're at 380g for it to be efficient. Cloth armor is 300 flat, which brings us 680gold (against auto-attack reliant lanes). So for 440g, you're getting 680g worth of stats and still have one pot to buy. It's a little closer to 500-550g if you're going against an AD caster style top like Riven or Renekton, but you can see that it's pretty worthwhile. In fact, for the stats it gives, you can literally keep it until late game when you need the slot for something better.

TL;DR You take flask to survive the lane. You take Doran's Shield to even out the lane. You take Doran's Blade if you're feeling ballsy and it's not a hard counter (like Monkey into Cancer Croc).

That's how I view it at least.