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I thought you where gonna Nerf Feral Flare, not destroy it....

NA Darklarik·4/29/2014, 12:27:18 AM·5 votes·1,108 views

Attack Speed lowered to 25% from 35% Attack damage lowered to 10 from 15 Unique Passive - Maim now reads "Maim: Basic attacks deal (25 + Feral stacks) bonus magic damage (300% against minions and monsters) and heal 10 Health on hit. Kills, assists and large monster kills grant a Feral stack."

item 3160 I know Feral Flare needed a nerf, but this is just overboard. As if the Base stats reduction wasent enough, they removed the SCALING HEAL, thats too much.

STACKS NO LONGER INCREASE THE HEAL. ITS A FLAT 10 (like, seriously?) for the entire game**. Unless this is a tooltip error, this item is done for.

Now, i know Feral Flare was too strong, but serioulsy, THE HEAL? For me that was the biggest part of the item, that scaling Heal. A flat 10 heal, for the entire game? Not to mention that you STILL have to get to 30 stacks and kills assist only count toards 1 stack, which isnt worth the time and risk of a gank, so the few people who still think this item might be worth it are still gonna AFK farm.

Im ok with the nerfs but not the heal. The heal is too much. Riot plz. PLZZZZ dont destroy this item...

20 Comments

Papy Mougeot4/29/2014, 8:05:21 AM5 votes

I disagree, the nerf to the heal was needed, it's all the others nerf that are making the item underpowered.

MakersF4/29/2014, 2:59:12 PM4 votes

10 (+1 every 3 stacks) Health on hit. The item is fixed, is not trash but it is not OP. Yi was retarded due to the damage, but the ridiculous part of FF was an undyr/olaf/shivana full tank with a FF which restored 40 hp per hit, when they have 250 armor/150 MR and 3000 HP. They literally required all the team focusing them for 30 seconds, if they didn't kill you before.

Changing the heal is the right choice, but this is too much. There is no return for the investment made

Eekmen4/29/2014, 4:50:51 AM3 votes

I think that the new Feral Flare is better. This way you have a chance against Master Yi, or anyone else who was running it. Plus you don't have to worry about having the most OP person in the first 15 minutes, it takes a while, unless the completely forget about the lanes that is.

Whyu4/29/2014, 1:45:03 PM2 votes

for those that are interested the stats on the PBE Feral Flare can be seen on the attached image. Important for those that haven't seen it.

I think everyone knows that this item needed a nerf. It really makes FF junglers feel like the only option.

It's an interesting change, not sure if it's a good one, but we'll see how it plays.

Angry Monster4/29/2014, 1:19:24 AM2 votes

agreed.

Why would i bother with ganks with this. I would take more damage doing a gank that could fail. Or i could kill 2 camps in the same amount of time of said possible gank.

Riot is back throwing darts at board and hoping one works.

:::golf clap:::

ShinRaigeki4/29/2014, 4:46:27 AM2 votes

If anything I'd have just given Flare +1 HP per hit per 2 stacks. That means Trick2G wouldn't have been gaining 110 but 55 HP by the end of his famous 100 Stack match : |

BigfootNamedYeti4/29/2014, 3:29:12 AM2 votes

Straight up shaco was sort of viable for five seconds then well you guys know the rest

Remlap12234/29/2014, 12:43:37 PM2 votes

It's fine guys, just go back to using the spirit stone items like you did back when Wriggle's was crap. Riot will probably reform it again by season 5.

NA Darklarik4/30/2014, 11:25:33 PM1 votes

Even if someone buys this they are still gonna afk farm.

A camp takes 10 seconds to clear and gives you 1 stack.

A gank usually takes 30+ Seconds depending on Variables and may not even be successfull.

Since the item dosent give you your powerboost untill you unlock it there still is no incentive to gank > Farm. If a kill or assist where worth 3 stacks (Toards Building the flare, once completed still worth 1), that would be a different story.

Thales4/29/2014, 1:28:29 AM1 votes

I think it's probably okay right now. The nerf to 30 stacks hurt it a lot. That said, even if FF is fine in terms of raw power, that power might not be in the directions Riot wants it to be.

Jesus is Savior4/29/2014, 3:39:58 AM1 votes

Gut it even more, make it cost 1650 again, and bring back muh 40% gold increase against monsters.

In its current state, it's trash. lol

Water of Eden4/29/2014, 4:53:43 AM1 votes

Actually, your assessment is entirely wrong. You get a heal of 10+stacks and your on hit damage is 100+3*stacks. Try it. I think you misread the item.

KrawMagraw4/29/2014, 11:50:45 AM1 votes

The health component of FF is one of the most problematic parts as it outclasses normal lifesteal very fast because of it being flat. though they could've moved the flat ammount up a little to compensate, but FF does need another nerf, maybe just not this big.