Self-Peels? What about Varus?

OnlyJunglesShaco·7/26/2014, 4:56:35 PM·4 votes·1,448 views

I was thinking from playing against champions like Lucian, Trist, ect how difficult it is to lock them down in both ganks and team fights.

I was wondering is there any reason that other adc's without forms of peel like Varus can't have a way to at least have their MS boosted by landing their soft cc?

Varus

4 Comments

Sire Hippington7/26/2014, 5:48:18 PM5 votes

Not sure if i want an ms-boost for the dew no-escape carrys, but they could use the kog-treadment of atleast having superior dmg/rang or tankiness. Tris is about the highest dps champ with also highest range and great selfpeal, lucian got the best short trades and strng poke in lane aswell as hyper mobillity and high dps. Kog works without selfpeal cause he got high range, insane damage and the highest base-hp lvl 18 amongst carrys. Jinx also works cause she has massive dps and high range.

So, what is left on no-mobile adcs? Varus Ashe MissFortune Varus got great poke, wich therefor costs some mana and windup with even less mobillity, and some nice cc, but the poke isn't much better than cait/Jinx or Kog post 6, and the cc dosn't make up for the lack of mobillity and range, and his dps isn't higher than that of mobile champs. I think he deserves 25 more AA range, and maybe a bit more base as.

Ashe has great utillity and some good poke/range, but she lacks dps and survivabillity. and the range isn't that great compared to jinx/cait/tris/kog. I think some on-hit damage on her Q would already help, and a small increase on the W ratio to help out her low damage. Or simply a passive.....

Missfortune needs a cleare direction, should she be a hybrid caster ot ad-carry. she would have the potential of huge aoe-damage, or hybrid dps, but she underpwerforms on both roles makeing her W physical damage would help alot on delivering damage mid/late with her giving her W an ap-scaling would make ap-mf a dangerouse hybrid carry giving her E an ad-scaling would help her to deal enough hybrid-aoe in the mid/late to stay relevant without %pen

TL/DR: I don't think imobile carrys need more mobillity, but rather better defined strengths that allow them to be viable despite the lack of mobillity(like kog/jinx) while mobile carrys need some better deffined weaknesses(unlike lucian/tris)

Hoi Im Temmo7/26/2014, 5:15:09 PM3 votes

Its a good point. I actually strongly dislike the "mobility meta" that we have right now. The game is less about the power and strategy, and more about avoiding them. Example: you don't lane VS Lucian - you lane vs minions, who get supporting fire from Lucian. He doesn't trade, doesn't really takes risks, etc. He stays in the back farming until he can poke you, burst some damage, and run away. Unless you can SERIOUSLY out damage him in that short period of time, he wins the trade, and you start again. Then, when you are low, he runs in to clean up and with his mobility, insures you don't have much chance to really get away.

It's a boring, no risk, high reward lane, that does not promote actual fighting between the champions.

Linna Excel7/26/2014, 5:31:50 PM2 votes

item 3078 item 3022 both help with self peel.

3MBER7/26/2014, 7:54:54 PM1 votes

It's do or die when I play Varus Hope for the penta