Hello :)
A have a question about Zyras W.
Why does its passive give CD isntead of AP/MRpen?
This isnt an buff Zyra thread just curious why a mage doesnt have something more fitting in her kit?The CD is nice and all.But why not more burst?
Hi there. Zyra's W gives CDR for two reasons:
First, Seeds have relatively little inherent value. We wanted to ensure that Zyra could cast more spells as she began to replenish her seeds faster, because as you put more points into W, you are expressing a desire to have more plants.
Second, because we wanted Zyra to be able to buy non-CDR items. We wanted players to be able to buy the items that made sense for them in their particular game from the entire line of mage oriented items, such as Zhonya's or Abyssal Scepter, not be restricted to the (at the time) small pool of CDR items.
A bit of context: We struggled during her development to balance 0% CDR Zyra builds against 40% CDR Zyra builds. The latter could put so many seeds out that certain enemy team compositions felt completely stifled. When W's cooldown was at a healthy level assuming 40% CDR builds, all other item paths felt terrible. Giving Zyra "free" CDR (20% on release) was accompanied by raising the cooldown of her W to compensate, meaning that Zyra's effective CDR cap for Rampant Growth was 20%.
Today, it's unlikely we would make the same decision, as CDR is a much more accessible stat. This is the reason that I lowered Zyra's passive CDR on W from 20% at max rank to 10%. In a game now filled with CDR choices, the "free" 20% was actually stifling her ability to purchase items. Hopefully getting to 40% these days involves a good amount of choice and compromise without leaving the player feeling like they are struggling to get to cap if they so desire or going way over if they do opt for CDR items.
CDR is amazing for a mage. It lets you get more spells out, which in turn, is more damage. Zyra isn't really a burst mage either (at least not like, say, LeBlanc). I would argue that CDR is more valuable on her kit than AP/MagicPen. Mages are most vulnerable when their cooldowns are up; what good is damage if it's always on cooldown?
Well she is primarily a support. And with her also being a mage, CDR fits both her need to rapidly snare and poke. If you want magic pen, buy some magic pen. Then what if you don't want to build AP on her and you are going full support, then AP and MP aren't going to be as good as CDR. CDR also can save her from buying more items to max the 40% reduction cap.
Build in passive AP or MPen is really just a fancy way of saying "extra base damage".
Also don't see why CD isn't any more fitting than AP/MPen. Mages and supports like to get their spells out faster as their builds tend to gate them with poor auto attacks. CD helps them accomplish this.
CertainlyT your nerfs to Zyra made her pretty much never played either support or mid, not that she was a particularly strong or popular mid before the changes to begin with. Can you now revert some of these changes or give her some buffs?
I think its pretty apparent now that your nerfs were overkill.
