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Thank You RITO for Ahri's story

PokladnicaZla··40 votes·3,017 views
http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_us/race/vastaya/

I might be a bit biased ,but thank you for not going with the ˝sex-crazed monster˝ style. Most of the community was always the opinion that she had to sleep with someone to steal their soul.,which was never confirmed nor denied.

I love the fact that took the approach of monster that wants to be human.The conflict between what you want and what you are.The guilt of taking another life to sustain yours.The emotion you go through,the thing you have to struggle everyday.The remorse you feel.

Not to mention the love story.That was heartbreaking. Being a monster learning to love and then finding someone who does.Even after finding out what she was,he still wanted her. He,taking his life ,makes this even more tragic.

To anyone who wrote story( I assume more people wrote it?) .Thank You.It was breathtaking and You hit the mark on Ahri,how I always imagined her to be. Not a cold blooded killer,but a creature tortured by her nature.Someone with empathy.

70 Comments

Sharjo22 votes

Jellbug was the writer for all of Ahri's stuff. I'll pass along the good word!

Splision11 votes

Could you please tell the writers for the other bios and short stories that they did excellent jobs as well? I really had a blast reading them.

Sharjo16 votes

That honour went to Anthony Burch of Borderlands fame; I'll pass along the kind words to him too!

AhmCha2 votes

Wait Borderlands? Damn Rito knows how to get the good stuff.

Malicious Metal2 votes

Jellbug might just be my favorite writer.

Mordepool1 votes

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Jellbug might just be my favorite writer.

Hey MM. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OOernG0E-the-reforging-of-mordekaiserriot

Would like your input if you're available

Melledoneus3 votes

Shameless self-promotion.

#SHAMELESS!

Mordepool3 votes

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Shameless self-promotion.

#SHAMELESS!

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I'm to old to be Bothered by shame or your primitive notions of Modesty

Sexy Fish Nami12 votes

I alway saw ahri in two ways:

1- in the actual game, I saw her as a fox who tried to be human by killing people.

2- the sexy fox that has 1264 pictures on a certain website and that keeps on wanting the D.

KONO RUBICK DA5 votes

name checks out

do you recommand watching those 1264 pictures

Sexy Fish Nami2 votes

definetly. Watch those made by the artist RiceGnat.

Nylisa6 votes

"that moment when you know that artist too well"

Thrill Moentral2 votes

Nothing to be ashamed of, friend!

Nylisa9 votes

"how I always imagined her to be. Not a cold blooded killer,but a creature tortured by her nature.Someone with empathy."

yes! up to this point this is how i use to see ahri because of the way her story was delivered! but now it changed thanks to Jellbug!

GrReaper969 votes

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-12-02-1480719823-2522186-EvilKermit_Header.jpeg Me: This is a great story full of character development and tells us there is good in everyone Also Me: Needs more waifu material

SkywallkerA3 votes

Why ohh why does this retcon exist? we went from a Fox who wanted to be human to Mowgli and continues riots new mission to pile angst onto her. You already had a character riot why are you remaking it?
item 3070 Ahri

PokladnicaZla2 votes

I'm not seeing the problem. I mean they kept most important part of her old lore and gave more depth to it.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

She would have been perfect without the Garden story.

PokladnicaZla2 votes

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She would have been perfect without the Garden story.

The garden story is best part.We finally find out what send her over the edge.Killer her lover,someone she loved,someone who loved her even to her knew what she was.

What's so wrong with the story?

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Pretty much ruined her for me. The one thing that shouldn't have happened was giving her a lover. Every time I think "I wanna play league" I remember her new lore and I just get depressed and don't wanna play anymore.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

What's wrong with her having a lover?

She was always a sad character.Even in her old lore. Hence her quote ; ˝Mercy is a humans luxury... and responsibility˝

NineTailedMystic1 votes

I didn't think I could be misinterpreted that badly.

I don't think I can be perceived any worse, so lets go. I liked to think of stories of Ahri and myself. Giving her a lover that she obviously still very much loves and would go back to in a heartbeat if it were possible shuts that down hard. I played League for Ahri, and now I don't want to play her because of this, thus I have no reason to play League. I was learning art because of Ahri, and now I don't even want to pick up the pencil.

Ahri being a sad character is fine, but I don't get depressed because of that. It's because I can't think of her like I used to. It doesn't matter what I do, write, or draw about her, this is her new character and there's nothing I can do about it. And I lost one of the few things that made me happy in my sad, little life.

Her two other stories were great. They kept Ahri pretty intact to her old lore even if there were a few changes. However, after The Garden, she's not the character I fell in love with and I don't know if I'll be able to again.

Yea, I know. I've got problems.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

I'm sorry to hear that and it will get better,but please get a life . . .

NineTailedMystic1 votes

I have one. It's just a sad and pitiful one.

lich Roland1 votes

i don't want to hurt you,but repeat with me:''WAIFUS DON'T EXIIIIIIST!!!"(i'm weird)

NineTailedMystic1 votes

I'm aware. It was still a fun thing to do and made me happy.

SkywallkerA2 votes

How? she isnt even the same species anymore. her motivations arent the same. tell me which part of her lore they kept? killing people? And i personally dont find more depth in the new lore. Angst and heartbreak isnt really something id ever acociate with her either. please explain

PokladnicaZla1 votes

They kept; -Wanting to be more human

  • the remorse she felt the more and more lives she took

Especially that.A creature that seduces her victim and toys her emotions,before killing them.Only to find love with one and then killing him. How do you not pity her?

What would you have instead? A fox-wanting to be human? Where would that end? When she's fully human and loses her powers or when she decides not steal lives and turns back into a fox? Since it's now more of a urge or addiction than just a desire the reason for not stopping is more legit.

SkywallkerA1 votes

Does it really have to replace curious and cunning with addicted and angsty? Did she have to be forced into being a vastaya and go away from the concept she was based on? The new lore doesn't fit her character in any way, just because the new lore is longer and has drama written into it. Next thing they do is prolly saying that "Stray Fox" is also a part of her new lore

PokladnicaZla1 votes

She's still curius,maybe less cunning,but more intelligente. They weren't forced into making her vastayan,but IMO they did make the right call. The concept she was based on is still intact(Gumiho/Kumiho). It's fits her pretty well.

I theory,if they kept her old lore.How would she evolve? What she possibli do from there?

SkywallkerA1 votes

Well it's not as if theres gonna be added more to the new so why ask where the old was gonna go?

I didn't say the writers were forced to make her a vastaya. I said it was a forced move (it's an expression) And making her a vastaya does take away from being a gumiho they are fundamentally different

But most of all I dont like the personality gelbug (or what he's called) gave her. It feels like a teen story to me.

I like how the old lore is more open ended, it gives you the core of the character yet leaves some of the more personal preference things up to you... The new lore doesn't really respect the core that was set up very much.

If we look at gangplanks new lore it's a different vipe hes older and less energetic but you could see gangplank becoming like that with age. With leonas new lore it's pretty much exactly the same character but just in greater detail, with diana It's mostly the same, it's just shown in a slightly different light (although it does mean her new quotes doesn't match her anymore). With pantheon it's a little distracting as was noted to be childhood friends with leona In his original lore, given he didn't have much of it, but it's highly questionable how they would make his only noted relationship go a complete 180.

with Ahris (like with pantheon) it feels very disconnected as if it's seperate universes (and like diana we also end up with quote miss-matches as her new lore doesn't have her at all confident)

PokladnicaZla1 votes

It appeara,we just have different views on this matter,but what I really don't u understand what's the problem with making her vastayan? She's still a gumiho,it's just that that they are branch in the "evolution" of vastaya.

SkywallkerA1 votes

well do you know what a gumiho is beyond a variation on the nine tailed fox legend?

between that and the fact that the orphan left in the wild, raised by animals and end up with magical powers already exist within the game in nidalee

but thanks for having this conversation with me i really needed to get that off my chest

PokladnicaZla1 votes

A gumiho (kumiho) is a fox-creature in japanese folklore.In some toles a fox who has lived thousand years becomes one.It has the power to transform into a beautiful woman and uses it lure young men and it's tear liver or heart.

Ahri's powers are likely linked to her origin. Well,Nidalee is likely a branch of vastaya as well.

Np

Meep Man3 votes

Well, technically, this is what she was before. It's just that Ahri's kit and such makes the community make her that way, usually for personal enjoyment and for the LULZ.

Favours of Tyche2 votes

Really? It's a rip off of a part of a novel call The Silver Wolf by Alice Borchardt - one that is WAYYYYY better written than this _ E for effort I guess

PokladnicaZla5 votes

Inspiration comes from everywhere,not to mention how much fiction there is,ofc some will be very much alike or similar.

Favours of Tyche1 votes

inspiration for what? this little dab is pretty boring and predictable :/

PokladnicaZla1 votes

I'm so sorry you feel that way.

Might I ask what you would prefer? You could write a short story and post it here,so we see how something unique should look like.

Leben Weiss1 votes

I read that one...but i didnt see this short story as a copy of the book, aside from the feral instinc vs humanity (a commom trope in fiction) i dont see what could be a rippoff.

I read that book a long time ago so maybe i just forgot things, can you refresh my memory?

Favours of Tyche1 votes

There's a part closer to the end where the main character goes to the afterlife/underworld/"the other side" in order to heal a friend of her and (not to spoil-I'll skip some of the amazing things she sees and endures to get there) goes to the garden of paradise where the most beautiful flowers/plants/etc are and meet the gardener of it whose tied to Roman lore (I'm really not trying to spoil it lol). She ends up falling in love with the garden and almost doesn't want to go back - wants to 'die' there but the gardener tells her she's too young to give up hope. She gets her 'cure' and flees the garden but she's always marked from her journey there, in a physical sense. There's more but that's the jist of it without completely ruining it - the imagery and dialogue is MILES better than this though.

Arcus Diabolus2 votes

One thing I'm a bit annoyed with is they basically made her a soul crazed essence vampire.

Even in her short story, when she first met the fortune teller, she had to resist the urge to drain her soul, which all in all isn't much different than a guilt filled yet blood addicted vampire.

I liked that she resolved not to kill again, but there was no word of her wanting to be human like in her old lore, only that she identified with her victims more, and thats about it. Ahri's desire to be human was perhaps the core part of her lore, even more than her seducing and soul devouring.

Also, I noticed that they didn't say she started out as a fox. They hinted at it, but they didn't say when she stopped being a fox and became what she is now, which suggested that she was always the vastaya we know her as.

PokladnicaZla2 votes

Why annoyed? They made a character with constant struggle of her nature and moral. Taking someones life is as same as her old. She's vastayan left and found by the foxes.

The Great Divide1 votes

Could someone elaborate on her lover's death? Did he drown? Or commit suicide? That was the only part I didn't quite get

Valaran Nara5 votes

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Could someone elaborate on her lover's death? Did he drown? Or commit suicide? That was the only part I didn't quite get

She ate him. She was insatiable, and she did the one thing she tried hard not to do. If he just had a regular death, then she would not have wanted to rid herself of those memories.

The Great Divide2 votes

Well, that's depressing - thanks for clarifying

KoKoboto1 votes

Great now whose gonna fill in the sex fox trope.

SkywallkerA2 votes

It was never there in the first place :P

Strident1 votes

It was pretty Rammus OK Rammus in my opinion; fundamentally different from what I imagined. Changing from fox to vastaya removes the connection between physical appearance and inner reflection. This is more important than you might think. It makes her less empathetic to me since she's now just getting drunk on memories now instead of choosing between a selfish dream and a growing morality. Now she's just choosing between hunger and morality. While it preserves the theme of self-acceptance, it severely alters the duality between desire and morality. The question "What does it mean to be human?" has just been kicked to the curb. It was also just far too blunt for me.

My criticisms may sound harsh, but that's just because I'm focusing on the negatives. It's got some good points too; the parallel between flowers was decent though a bit artificial. It's a different direction from what I've always imagined, so I give it an Rammus OK Rammus.

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