Does anybody use Scrying Orb? (Blue Trinket)

SonicÐeHedgedawg·Nov 27, 2013·4 votes·817 views

Seems to me like this trinket needs some major love compared to its brethren.

At level 1, all it's really good for is peeking into your lane brush, and, at that cool-down, wouldn't it be better to just do that with a sight ward or a warding totem, which is generally more versatile? And if you are really worried about unexpected behind-you ganks in areas that you wouldn't otherwise ward, just toss a pink ward in their early, and it'll probably stay there ALL laning phase for free.

Even once fully upgraded, Farsight Orb's short reveal duration, area and cast-range really don't give it any sort of meaningful map awareness power, as it pretty much becomes a face-check guard for baron and nothing more, and after you use it, you'd better throw a real ward at baron.

Honestly, I feel like all the orb trinkets REALLY need right now is to have a noticeably shorter cool-down, and they can be balanced from there, but the other trinket options are just way too powerful comparatively to consider the orb as an option in most cases. Even with a sightstone, you're probably better off with a pink warding totem or an oracle's sweeper than a farsight orb

15 Comments

StealthinessNov 27, 20132 votes

I agree with OP. Let's compare the trinkets: Reveal an area for 1 minute as long as it doesn't get pinked or swept Reveal an area for 1 second at a slightly longer range Remove a ward from an area if you correctly guess where it is

The first one of these seems the most powerful, right? Why does it also have the lowest cooldown? I think the vision game would be much more interesting if Lens and Sweeper were more important parts of the game.

SonicÐeHedgedawgNov 27, 20131 votes

Now, don't get me wrong, I understand that warding is an important part of the game so much so that supports used to send themselves to the poor-house trying to keep the map warded, so, in order for the warding totem to realistically take that burden off supports, it has to be good, it arguably has to be even the best trinket.

And, honestly, I am fine with that being the case. My problem is just that it is SO much better that the other trinkets seem damn near worthless. And I honestly think that the biggest reason why, is that, in addition to having the greatest effect, warding trinkets inexplicably have the shortest cooldown as well.

Aeolian MelodiesDec 11, 20131 votes

The Sweeping Lens (red trinket) isn't bad or overshadowed by the totem by any mean. It's picked the most on jungler and it's also picked a lot on support who want to maintain bush control, or supports who want to help the jungler secure an early gank.

TheLastUzumakiNov 27, 20131 votes

Gotta say I disagree, endgame this could be really funnily used if you really try to predict where they are, a lot of people forget to ward more than you think, I've often seen people forget to pick up any of the new free wards since the updates. So as the upgraded version of this trinket, you could use it with its far range, have your team rdy and invade the enemy team doing Baron, hopefully picking up Baron as well. Huge game changer if you practice with it

TheLastUzumakiNov 27, 20131 votes

I would suggest either jungler or support to get this, and the other get sweeping lens. Makes the most sense to me, while ADC, Top and Mid get the free ward trinket. I guess you could all just go the ward though, that sight is very powerful to turns things around.

SonicÐeHedgedawgNov 27, 20131 votes

Saying an item is good and relying on people forgetting to buy wards as justification isn't a glowing recommendation

TheLastUzumakiNov 28, 20131 votes

That isn't close to what I was saying...

TheLastUzumakiNov 28, 20131 votes

Just stating that it happens. This item is good and does not need to be buffed, its already powerful enough if you use your brain.

JackAquaNov 27, 20131 votes

Hecarim can use it early on, but should switch to level 3 ward later. So he can jump over walls with his E.

eKatSSNov 27, 20131 votes

~~Any champion that can ward hop is better off getting the warding totem anyways..~~ Didn't know that ^^'

JackAquaNov 27, 20131 votes

he can't ward hop, he can reveal monsters and jump to them

SonicÐeHedgedawgNov 30, 20131 votes

but since the warding totem has a lower cooldown and can be cast over walls, it's STILL a better option for doing that than the scrying orb . . . AND you get a free ward that stays there for a minute or so as a bonus

JackAquaDec 1, 20131 votes

true

eKatSSNov 27, 20131 votes

I must say that I tend to agree on this point. The range isn't terribly high, especially before level 9. I would simply buy the red/yellow trinket before lvl 9 and, maybe, switch for the blue one after lvl 9. But it's still only marginally more useful against high mobility teams or to cover unwarded objectives.

I say buff either range or reveal time to make this item worthwhile. The 500 more range on the upgrade seems lackluster for the 475 gold you have to spend for it. Actually, a lower cooldown might help it out too...

Aeolian MelodiesDec 11, 20131 votes

I tried it a couple of times (support main), I really wanted to convince myself that it was actually good but it's just underwhelming compared to a free ward (can upgrade for pink ward on demand) or oracle on demand that disable wards as well.

Imo both the range and the reveal duration need to be improved if Riot wants us to actually use that thing. Perhaps the CD too but it has to be kept in line with other trinkets.

Imo remove CV as a summoner spell and rework it into the last upgrade of the Orb, that'd be a good start.