RIOT, Can we finally allow Zilean's chronoshift to show up as "healing done" in post-game?

SonicÐeHedgedawg·Oct 16, 2015·24 votes·1,475 views

I know it doesn't mean much for the actual game, but it's another metric that helps to slightly more accurately depict Zilean's contributions to the team.... though if you do decide to make this change, PLEASE don't accidentally make chronoshift susceptible to grievous wounds.

9 Comments

DorkunedAurasOct 16, 20155 votes

They can't do that without making it so that yasuo can ult knocked up teammates, Having ziggs' ult randomly double in AoE, and having hecarim's Q not having a max passive CD reduction stacks, because spaghetti code.

Vore MonsterOct 17, 20151 votes

Really?

DorkunedAurasOct 17, 20152 votes

It's a joke, given the way Riot's "Spaghetti Code" works.

layritOct 17, 20152 votes

Since Sion's passive counts as healing (or why the hell does he have so much post-game healing???) I think Zilean's ult should too.

Altho I don't think it would help you estimate your game impact in any meaningful way because if you did a lot of healing with Chronoshift it means that you were constantly beaten down and your team was moaning about having a ZIlean instead of Leona/Thresh and have reported you x4.

P.S. I think there should also be the "Shields" graph somewhere so by looking at the stats you could say if Janna was actually playing.

SonicÐeHedgedawgOct 17, 20151 votes

It would still be nice to track. And, yeah, "damage prevented" with shields could be cool

Reckless HeirOct 16, 20151 votes

It's not a heal.. guardian angel isn't healing done either, Aatrox passive might be... along with Mundo ult idk they should add a summoner skill - Revive but in the spot you died.

SonicÐeHedgedawgOct 16, 20154 votes

Zilean's ultimate is not just a guardian's angel, it scales with AP and is, essentially, a MASSIVE single target heal (if you go pure AP Zilean, it can even full-revive tanks).

I'm aware in what ways it differs from traditional healing, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a gigantic part of his contribution to the team, and it's completely absent in post-game stats even though things like healing from Talisman or jungle items make it in. It would just be a change to make zilean's contributions more visible, nothing more.

xFrostKnightxOct 17, 20151 votes

I'm guessing it's because Hippie Zilean move speed 9999, actually interacts with GA coding to make his ult apply, which his Skill + scaling replaces the default value (the % one) so healing done is considered done by the item rather than Zilean.

If they made his heal show up as healing done, then it is easily done by making GA count as healing done. (which they don't do, because it unfairly makes your score better for dying and triggering GA)

If we were to apply it as an actual heal, then they would need to write more code to separate Zileans heal for normal heals. Which unnecessarily makes the coding more messy. So fortunately, between Normal heals (which can be weakened) and GA (uncountable heal) Zilean got the GA one. We will see the return of the infamous 50% reduced heal when the ADC patch comes through, so placing Zileans ult into the "Normal" heal category would actually be a nerf.