Chests, open now, or wait?

MojoBubu·Sep 10, 2017·1 votes·2,215 views

We learned recently that we will have a chance to get a chest inside of a chest, with the new IP reward change. Do we assume that this change doesn't happen until this patch is implemented? If so we shouldn't open our chests and hold on to keys until they add a chance for us to get double loot.

"To offset the disenchant rate changes, we’re going to change the way loot chests work so you’ll have a chance to get two drops in each chest. Get ready for chests inside of your chests."

^ (Change the way chests work) does not specify current or a new chest.

http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/09/upcoming-changes-to-leveling-ip-rewards/

12 Comments

ShadòwSep 10, 20171 votes

The normal chest won't be affected I think (or do they?)

What you should do is disenchant every shard (skin shards included) before preseason hits.

I think even if the double reward chance is for normal chests too you should still open them now and disenchant all you don't need.

MojoBubuSep 10, 20171 votes

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The normal chest won't be affected I think.

What you should do is disenchant every shard (skin shards included) before preseason hits.

Interesting, I think I'll look into it more before I open chests or disenchant anything.

MysterQSep 10, 20171 votes

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The normal chest won't be affected I think (or do they?)

What you should do is disenchant every shard (skin shards included) before preseason hits.

I think even if the double reward chance is for normal chests too you should still open them now and disenchant all you don't need.

Why Skin Shards? Orange Essence is still a thing right.

ShadòwSep 11, 20171 votes

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Why Skin Shards? Orange Essence is still a thing right.

But the amount of orange essence you get from skin shards drop too.

I don't know why they do that, probably because you'll get them easier from preseason on with the double loot and level up loot.

MojoBubuSep 11, 20171 votes

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But the amount of orange essence you get from skin shards drop too.

I don't know why they do that, probably because you'll get them easier from preseason on.

I feel if you don't disenchant anything, they will either reimburse you, or you'll keep them. I don't see a reason to disenchant anything at this point, other than to craft a skin shard you already have.

ShadòwSep 11, 20171 votes

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I feel if you don't disenchant anything, they will either reimburse you, or you'll keep them. I don't see a reason to disenchant anything at this point, other than to craft a skin shard you already have.

no they won't.

Riot even confirmed themselves that you should disenchant every Shard you don't need now.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/09/riot-pls-leveling-ip-and-rewards.html#4

LOOT REBALANCING Since you’ll be getting so many more shards thanks to the new leveling system (and with other recent changes to honor and events), we’ll tune down the relative value of the essence you get from disenchanting shards of all types—champ shards, skin shards, and ward skin shards. In the current system, for example, disenchanting a champ shard will get you about a third of the BE you need to buy a champ at that shard’s tier; In the new system it’ll get you 20% of the way there. Also, with so many more champ shards in the system, we need to remove the ability to reroll them into permanent champs—but we’ll occasionally sell mystery champions for blue essence. For these reasons, you should go ahead and reroll or disenchant any shards you don’t want to upgrade before preseason hits so you can get the most essence possible out of them. We’ll add reminders to the client as preseason approaches so y’all don’t forget. To offset the disenchant rate changes, we’re going to change the way loot chests work so you’ll have a chance to get two drops in each chest. Get ready for chests inside of your chests. We’ll also add “bad luck protection,” so you won’t ever go on long streaks without getting a skin shard or a gemstone from chests.

MojoBubuSep 11, 20171 votes

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no they won't.

Riot even confirmed themselves that you should disenchant every Shard you don't need now.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/09/riot-pls-leveling-ip-and-rewards.html#4 Since you’ll be getting so many more shards thanks to the new leveling system (and with other recent changes to honor and events), we’ll tune down the relative value of the essence you get from disenchanting shards of all types—champ shards, skin shards, and ward skin shards. In the current system, for example, disenchanting a champ shard will get you about a third of the BE you need to buy a champ at that shard’s tier; In the new system it’ll get you 20% of the way there. Also, with so many more champ shards in the system, we need to remove the ability to reroll them into permanent champs—but we’ll occasionally sell mystery champions for blue essence. For these reasons, you should go ahead and reroll or disenchant any shards you don’t want to upgrade before preseason hits so you can get the most essence possible out of them. We’ll add reminders to the client as preseason approaches so y’all don’t forget. To offset the disenchant rate changes, we’re going to change the way loot chests work so you’ll have a chance to get two drops in each chest. Get ready for chests inside of your chests. We’ll also add “bad luck protection,” so you won’t ever go on long streaks without getting a skin shard or a gemstone from chests.

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Tristanl0lSep 10, 20171 votes

open now because preseason is gonna drop the BE value of champ shard

MysterQSep 10, 20171 votes

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open now because preseason is gonna drop the BE value of champ shard

This is what I think.

Also, I think you have a HIGHER chance to get a champ shard after patch. Which sucks, so open now before everything goes to champ shards. I may be wrong though.

ZastieSep 11, 20171 votes

Chest contents are determined upon receiving the chest, not when opening. Or at least I think that's how it works?

MojoBubuSep 11, 20171 votes

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Chest contents are determined upon receiving the chest, not when opening. Or at least I think that's how it works?

Would love to think so!

ShadòwSep 11, 20171 votes

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Would love to think so!

I think the rewards are determined when opening. I'm pretty sure you can get just released champions with old chests. Also, they stack, so I'm pretty sure the content isn't saved upon receiving the chest

Back to the point, they were talking about Loot rebalancing. So I think you probably will get on average as much more out of your chests than what value is lost on the Shards. Maybe you'll have luck and get some of these double chests or extra gemstones, but maybe not. So it's basically a gamble.