I was just wondering. I have some virtual machines and I was thinking of playing bot games with a team of me.
edit: the only problem i see atm is i am getting ip and xp for all of the accounts.
edit 10/14 : I am going to do it if my account gets harmed then so be it too bored XD
DragonTroopBeta4 votesye the popos r comin run while u can boi
Busty Demoness4 votesI have no idea how you'd pull that off. Because I'd need to have all champions controlled at once with the same set of controls.
Best I could do is controlling 2 champions with 2 gaming mice, but that would still be a lot of effort.
However, in regards to actually being allowed, I think it's fine as long as none of those champions have their gameplay automated.
Tesserof2 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-13T18:56:48.723+0000)
I have no idea how you'd pull that off. Because I'd need to have all champions controlled at once with the same set of controls.
Best I could do is controlling 2 champions with 2 gaming mice, but that would still be a lot of effort.
However, in regards to actually being allowed, I think it's fine as long as none of those champions have their gameplay automated.
yep just me bouncing from one to another.
Busty Demoness1 votesyep just me bouncing from one to another.
Personally, I'd say it's near impossible to pull off successfully with the bounce method except on TT or ARAM because it'll be impossible to properly CS 3 lanes while telling the jungler to clear neutral camps.
Mainly because you'd need to account for each champion and it will be impossible to pull off wombo combos unless any two champions have their controls synchronized.
Tesserof1 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-10-13T19:03:01.845+0000)
Personally, I'd say it's near impossible to pull off successfully with the bounce method except on TT or ARAM because it'll be impossible to properly CS 3 lanes while telling the jungler to clear neutral camps.
Mainly because you'd need to account for each champion and it will be impossible to pull off wombo combos unless any two champions have their controls synchronized.
bot games only my friend.
Busty Demoness1 votesbot games only my friend.
Bot games would be the only other exception, since I was talking in regards to PVP.
Here's a few things I would consider:
This way, you can super group your champions and have a very similar frame of reference at all times (since it would be impossible to sync up unlocked screens). And with the hotkey switching it would make bouncing between screens even easier. Using Smartcast is basically required if you're gonna be using skills quickly enough.
BlueVestGuy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-10-13T19:03:01.845+0000)
Personally, I'd say it's near impossible to pull off successfully with the bounce method except on TT or ARAM because it'll be impossible to properly CS 3 lanes while telling the jungler to clear neutral camps.
Mainly because you'd need to account for each champion and it will be impossible to pull off wombo combos unless any two champions have their controls synchronized.
...You think Bronze V players are people playing on 5 different accounts at once?
Tesserof1 votes...You think Bronze V players are people playing on 5 different accounts at once?
I would not be surprised. doubt im the first person to think about it, and am sure others have done it (are doing it) right now. It is still nearly impossible to block virtual machines and is an important security hazard to be aware of in the IT world.
Busty Demoness1 votes...You think Bronze V players are people playing on 5 different accounts at once?
If anyone could do it, it would be Xj9 and he'd be Gold in Flex queue no problem.
Tesserof1 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=00020000000000010001,timestamp=2017-10-13T19:17:06.270+0000)
If anyone could do it, it would be Xj9 and he'd be Gold in Flex queue no problem.
Yeah i feel like if their was a legitimate solution to this pro rts players would be all over it.
Busty Demoness1 votesYeah i feel like if their was a legitimate solution to this pro rts players would be all over it.
Right now the biggest issue is the heavy micro focus that is simultaneous between 4 lanes through the early game, and the early game dictates whether your late game comes sooner, later, or at all.
That's why a single RTS player wouldn't ever be truly able to play alone with 5 champions against a team of 5 players each with one champion.
That said, I feel it's entirely possible for Riot to code the ability for one player to play an entire team, and set up a map specifically for such gameplay.
Tesserof1 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-13T18:56:48.723+0000)
I have no idea how you'd pull that off. Because I'd need to have all champions controlled at once with the same set of controls.
Best I could do is controlling 2 champions with 2 gaming mice, but that would still be a lot of effort.
However, in regards to actually being allowed, I think it's fine as long as none of those champions have their gameplay automated.
Hrm maybe some sort of controller that sets the input of the computer to the input of all of the virtual machine? sounds like a fun solo 5 urf :D
BobaFlautist2 votesIt depends. Are you doing it for fun/to test bugs/interactions/builds? Or are you so ng it to quickly and efficiently farm multiple accounts up to level 30 worth a bunch of IP? The first is probably fine, if sketchy. The second will definitely result in you losing the accounts.
Cycera1 votesI think Riot might be against that. Maybe not for playing with yourself at the same time, but because they are super against people changing things in their game. This would include your virtual machines, I assume.
Tesserof1 voteswell im not changing the game it really is no different then having 3 computers set up in front of you.
DrCyanide1 votesI think Riot might be against that. Maybe not for playing with yourself at the same time, but because they are super against people changing things in their game. This would include your virtual machines, I assume.
Virtual Machines look exactly like additional computers to Riot. It doesn't change anything inside the game, it just runs another copy of Windows (or another OS) inside an application.
You basically have your hardware, which runs Windows, which runs the Virtual Machine program, which provides "fake" hardware to run another copy of Windows on, and that other copy of Windows runs League. The OP wants to have 4 of these other copies of Windows running, each with a version of League.
Cycera1 votesVirtual Machines look exactly like additional computers to Riot. It doesn't change anything inside the game, it just runs another copy of Windows (or another OS) inside an application.
You basically have your hardware, which runs Windows, which runs the Virtual Machine program, which provides "fake" hardware to run another copy of Windows on, and that other copy of Windows runs League. The OP wants to have 4 of these other copies of Windows running, each with a version of League.
I see. I'm an Apple %%%got so I wasn't aware of any of this. If he can pull it off, then Idk if Riot would care. It isn't modding their game really so i don't see why they would?
DrCyanide1 votesI see. I'm an Apple %%%got so I wasn't aware of any of this. If he can pull it off, then Idk if Riot would care. It isn't modding their game really so i don't see why they would?
I also don't see why they'd care. There are Virtual Machines for MacOS too, I just used Windows as the OS in the example since that's the easiest OS to set up that runs League (Apple doesn't let you set up MacOS on non-Apple hardware, violates their ToU).
Metleon1 votesVirtual Machines look exactly like additional computers to Riot. It doesn't change anything inside the game, it just runs another copy of Windows (or another OS) inside an application.
You basically have your hardware, which runs Windows, which runs the Virtual Machine program, which provides "fake" hardware to run another copy of Windows on, and that other copy of Windows runs League. The OP wants to have 4 of these other copies of Windows running, each with a version of League.
Wait, so you're saying it's a game, inside an os, inside a computer, inside an os, inside a computer? I'm really starting to believe we're already living inside a nested simulation.
DrCyanide1 votesWait, so you're saying it's a game, inside an os, inside a computer, inside an os, inside a computer? I'm really starting to believe we're already living inside a nested simulation.
Basically, yeah. They're frequently used when you're looking to test software with different setups but don't want a bunch of computers around for each OS.
ZenithEevee1 votes1: ... If you could somehow get that to work, I'd be more surprised than anything
2: Knowingly they Would have some sort of problem, But probably not as much as just having a 5 man team on a lan party type thing.
Nsane1 votesIt might be against the ToS, but most certainly not illegal.
ModJikker1 votesI wouldn't. A team of me sounds like you'd be running scripts for them basically and that sounds very much against the ToS. It seems too much a risk
Busty Demoness1 votesI wouldn't. A team of me sounds like you'd be running scripts for them basically and that sounds very much against the ToS. It seems too much a risk
As I said, as long as none of the champions are automated it's fine. He wants to literally bounce between 5 champions at once.
ModJikker1 votes[{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-10-13T19:24:40.892+0000)
As I said, as long as none of the champions are automated it's fine. He wants to literally bounce between 5 champions at once.
Oh
Hmmmm
Like literally 5 machines running different accounts at once? If it's all on the same computer, I still wouldn't. It just feels like it's too questionable to risk it. Five different computers.....idk, maybe? We need a Rioter lol
Busty Demoness1 votesOh
Hmmmm
Like literally 5 machines running different accounts at once? If it's all on the same computer, I still wouldn't. It just feels like it's too questionable to risk it. Five different computers.....idk, maybe? We need a Rioter lol
A VM is basically a whole computer inside another computer. Detection would be extremely difficult.
DrCyanide1 votesI wouldn't. A team of me sounds like you'd be running scripts for them basically and that sounds very much against the ToS. It seems too much a risk
It's exactly the same as having 5 computers physically set up right next to each other, then trying to use all of them at the same time. No ToS violation unless he actually goes and uses scripts to try and play better when he can only manage accounts 1/5th of the time.
ModJikker1 votesIt's exactly the same as having 5 computers physically set up right next to each other, then trying to use all of them at the same time. No ToS violation unless he actually goes and uses scripts to try and play better when he can only manage accounts 1/5th of the time.
I'm not saying it is against the ToS in this manner, but I'm saying that I'm not sure that it isn't and often if you're unsure and your account is at risk (or in this case, 5 accounts), why risk it?
DrCyanide1 votesI'm not saying it is against the ToS in this manner, but I'm saying that I'm not sure that it isn't and often if you're unsure and your account is at risk (or in this case, 5 accounts), why risk it?
I'm 100% sure it's fine. It's more inside the rules that the 1 player on the keyboard, 1 on the mouse match that Riot hosted in All Stars (which was literal account sharing).
Tesserof1 votesI am so glad this was an interesting enough topic to get the community excited. Thanks for all the responses! I sincerely hope a rioter can answer my question, because now I would be completely stupid to do it if it was against the rules. If i dont here from a rioter I guess i will leave it at just fantasy or just do a practice game where no Ip, xp, or other players can be effected.
If people are also interested in a rioters response. up vote the thread. who know maybe i got riot stumped and they are in a tizzy about what to do right now :P
If people are interested in a video of how to set up multiple instances of lol on your own computer I will if it is okay with riot.
Vacus1 votesI feel the most likely case is that it is not currently technically against anything, but you would get politely asked to stop.
If you didn't, Riot would then probably update the ToS to make it against it.
rework trundle1 votesAfaik you need to have at least 3 humans per team to gain XP, I hope your computer is good enough to sustain 5 VM :P But seriously I wouldn't try it unless you get a confirmation by Riot.
Tesserof1 votes[{quoted}](name=le un le seul,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9XWgqRpP,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-10-13T20:02:57.069+0000)
Afaik you need to have at least 3 humans per team to gain XP, I hope your computer is good enough to sustain 5 VM :P But seriously I wouldn't try it unless you get a confirmation by Riot.
I have 64 GB of RAM i am set on running the games. Also you can get experience from 2v2 on TT in custom, but you only have a certain number of custom games you get experience for a day.