How does ancient coin psuedo random drop work?

Tesserof··1 votes·1,026 views

Sometimes you get a coin on first minion kill sometimes not. Also in a solo lane if you are bad at cs it can be helpful so I was wondering how exactly the coin makes a decision to drop. Like if you grab it in a solo lane and miss only a few cs will it pay out in the long run? Where is the break even point considering how good you are at cs? Obviously if you cs nothing coin is good so if you cs half would it be worthwhile?

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Appoh2 votes

I think it's an ebb and flow deal, the more blue coins u get the more yellow u will end up getting soon, the more coin are dropping the less will end up dropping, it feels very balanced and not totally random. just make sure you're in range for them to drop as sometimes i end up drifting too far back when i'm low on hp and miss drops

Tesserof1 votes

I am really bad a cs top lane. You think i should go for it if I end up at that position and am playing a mana hungry champ? I might get into a practice game and do some math.

Appoh2 votes

never, it's a support item and it's built for it, you also lose out on offensive stats, even getting doran shield gives you bonus damage to minions, you should get runes, masteries and items to help cs better and then practice on it, if you want to improve you should try and do that, not find ways to compensate for lack of skill. it's not going to benefit you to just coverup and ignore mistakes

Tesserof1 votes

yeah your probobly right. Just looking for ways to do well in a losing lane, in a bad matchup, with high lag or where you are getting a lot of minions denied at tower and your jungle isnt taking the pushed lane as an oppurtunity. Do you think there would be any situation it would be smart? I just had luck with it when I had 600 ms ping and could not cs for shit. Also sometimes its not so much about winning for me as it is about doing well with a novel build and play style. Its our job as players to push the limits of the game.

Khristophoros2 votes

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yeah your probobly right. Just looking for ways to do well in a losing lane, in a bad matchup, with high lag or where you are getting a lot of minions denied at tower and your jungle isnt taking the pushed lane as an oppurtunity. Do you think there would be any situation it would be smart? I just had luck with it when I had 600 ms ping and could not cs for shit. Also sometimes its not so much about winning for me as it is about doing well with a novel build and play style. Its our job as players to push the limits of the game.

If you are zoned you won't be able to grab the coins so I wouldn't recommend it.

Colgate Gator2 votes

Probably it's some sort of applied rubber banding, I'd assume that the coin has a hidden "expected gold gain" kind of counter, if your current gold gain falls behind that, you'd earn coins more consistently, but if you are up to the expected number or above, the drop rate would diminish.

At least I imagine that's how it works.

Also, it's not supposed to work efficiently for solo laners, that's kind of the point, it's your job to properly CS. Even with that said, the coin's gold gain isn't that high compared in the big scheme, say you get around 2-3 coins each 2 waves, that's 50-75g, so basically 3-4 minions.

Tesserof1 votes

but i go back and get the 2nd tier fast and that gives 40g each and as i stated i am not looking for optimum i am bad at cs and usually lose alot of minions to being pushed into tower. People with high lag also might take advantage because of poor cs capabilities.

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