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I feel like Sylas' designer couldn't choose which ability he liked, so he chose them all.

Icangoanniewhere·2/15/2019, 4:31:12 PM·3 votes·1,556 views

Why does Sylas' abilities have so many ...abilities in them? Like I get how everyone is talking about how his damage is mediocre and stuff (he's still got pretty good ratios/damage tho), but it seems like he has twice as many abilities as your usual champion.

 His Q hitting in an x and **slowing of 50%** with a .6AP scaling is already more than good enough for an ability, especially with a 9 second cooldown at rank 1 with 0 cdr? However, he gets a _part 2_, and it creates a circle similar to a ![Syndra](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Syndra.png)/![Karthus](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Karthus.png)  q and does another .6ap damage and **slows for 50%** once again. That's a 120% basic ability with a slow to help you land both parts on a ridiculously low cd.


 His W gives him and execute and a gap closer (sure it has low range but it's still there), with a .55AP ratio, increased to **.825AP** if they are low health. This is a great ability in and of itself, but wait, there's more; It also heals him for .35AP, increased to** .70AP** if he is low. 

 ![Soraka](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Soraka.png) gets .55AP on her ult, increased to .825AP for low allies. Sure, she can heal all of her teammates at once and Sylas can't, but because Sylas builds way more AP, he heals more than a soraka ult. **on a 14 second CD** (~7 seconds at max rank with 40% cdr).


 His E gives him yet another dash as well as a .9AP shield. People have compared his shield to ![Riven](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Riven.png)  shield, but riven shield is 100% _bonus_ AD, not total, coupled with the fact that Sylas will have way more AP than riven will have _bonus_ AD. With max cdr/ranks, Sylas will get that shield every 6 seconds, and Riven gets one every 3.6 seconds, so they are basically equal already. But wait there's another **half** to the ability - He gets a pretty decent ranged stun and pulls himself to the target, _and_ knocks them up **(That's a dash, a gapcloser, a shield, a stun, and a knockup all in ONE ability on a 6 SECOND COOLDOWN)**


 His ult is ironically the least overloaded part of his kit, other than WHY DOES IT CHANGE AD RATIOS TO AP???. Similar to how ![Kassadin](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Kassadin.png) takes reduced damage from ap and how ![Irelia](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Irelia.png) w only mitigates damage from ad, HE SHOULD HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE DRAWBACKS OF TAKING CERTAIN ULTS. If pantheon/ashe gets their ults changed to AP instead of AD because it would be broken as they usually build AD, but when Sylas takes something like ![Yasuo](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Yasuo.png) ult he still gets to have it scale with his AP???

 Also, his passive is already a really good auto empower (that could honestly be it's own ability), but it's not really a problem compared to the rest of his kit

Compare this dude to someone like twisted fate or something. Riot needs to chill out before the next champ has a global ability that lets you click on them and they die... on a 10 second cooldown

3 Comments

Poop Johnson2/15/2019, 6:52:52 PM3 votes

Lets get one thing out of the way, in all his roles he has a 45% winrate which is abysmal. Why does he have a 45% winrate when he has all these great things you listed? Because kits are a little more complex then just listing out what every ability does and how they're so big and scary.

  • His second Q is really not that easy to hit, you need to combo his E into it or else they're just gonna walk away from it. Also sure his Q has 2 parts but Karthus's Q does double damage on a single target added with his magic pen, his constant AOE, and his ULT. Same thing for Syndra, if she lands a Q she can almost always get a stun, and then her W, and then her ULT. Oh yeah both are on a lower cooldown, by the way.

  • Yeah his W does have an execution and a huge heal but he's still a squishy AP champion who has no good itemization and if he needs the heal and you're not at half health thats only 180+55% damage which is abysmal on a single target 12 second cooldown spell.I don't have the time or willpower to explain why Soraka's healing is completely different from self sustain.

  • Have you actually looked a the numbers for his E besides the cooldown and the shield's ratio? The base number for the shield for most of the game is going to be 60, that's about 1 auto attack from any champion at level 1. It's damage has slightly better damage but with a 20% ratio.

  • Panth and Ashe have AP damage on their ult because damage isn't the primary purpose of their ult, it's the utility. Panth could have a 300% ad ratio and it wouldn't matter besides cheese situations and Ashe has a huge stun taped to it. They also never got changed to AP, they always were AP.

  • He already has considerations to which ults he steals because he can barely use half the ults in the game. Darius? He doesn't have his passive so it does minimum damage. Illoai? No way to activate then tentacles. Syndra? Same as Darius. I can't honestly think of an AD only ult that he has a better use then the original champion.

Really i could go on about how Champions like Riven and Camile have basically the same amount of things in their kit but also have the benefit of being able to build tanky/being able to buy lifesteal while he has almost zero itemization so his kit facilitates having a lot in it because without it he couldn't function.