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The reluctance to revert reworks that have missed the mark really diminish this game

Blyted·10/19/2018, 4:31:06 PM·10 votes·8,081 views

I am not one of those nostalgia people that complain about reworks just to complain, but when a reworked champion ends up in the gutter due to a rework a revert should be mandatory. If a rework changes the "identity" of a champ I don't care as long the champ is left in a viable or at the very least a more healthy state

new kit is a nightmare that will either be super overbearing or super underwhelming. I understand this champ isn't the most popular, but why is it ok to leave in this state when she was fine before the failed rework?

I feel rage bubble up inside me when I think about what was done to this champion. He used to be able to do things now he is nothing but an ult bot. What was done to is bad, but the true slap in the face is that after it is clear that this is a failed rework absolutely nothing has been done about it. This basically amounts to game development malpractice I understand that this is a free to play game, but damn.

36 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer10/19/2018, 5:39:17 PM13 votes

Sejuanj wasn’t fine before her rework.

She had a useless passive, an E that did nothing, and a W that wasn’t much all because she had a fast moving long range potential 5 man stun.

Riot had to make the rest of her kit almost worthless because of how much power was loaded into her ult.

Current Sej has problems, yes, but not close to what her old issues were.

Phieldworker10/19/2018, 7:11:58 PM5 votes

You know old Sej was an ult bot right?

Pika Fox10/19/2018, 5:47:49 PM2 votes

Honestly the bigger issue is that they do reverts at all. Kog was FUN when he had the ability to break AS cap. They could have at least given us a new kog with a new idea instead of the old one...

Ætheist10/19/2018, 8:07:28 PM1 votes

The old Sejuani was basically a big AoE immobilization followed by basically being a walking magic damage aura, more or less the same as Amumu.

Q: Engage W: AoE %HP magic damage (Yeah, Sejuani's had an empowered AA at the beginning, but that was ALSO AoE %HP magic damage) E: Fairly spammable AoE magic damage R: Large AoE immobilization effect

Both of them also had built-in physical damage resistance (Sejuani from her passive bonus armor and Amumu from Tantrum's passive).

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø10/19/2018, 10:41:04 PM1 votes

Revert SHACO pls for the love of everything please revert SHACO

Excellent Era10/20/2018, 12:45:02 AM1 votes

Zac

Busty Demoness10/20/2018, 12:53:45 AM1 votes

My problem with current Sejuani is actually how poorly her Permafrost was implemented.

Having it as a point and click single target stun with limited range makes her feel less like a team fighter.

I liked her Permafrost when it could stun multiple targets on an instant cast.

If we changed her R to only apply full stacks of Frost to a hit target and the aoe deal damage over time (that also applied Frost stacks), that should cut enough power while also solidifying her spot as a team fight tank, opting for a little more damage than raw, upfront Crowd Control like other tanks such as Nunu, Gragas and Amumu.

Akaash10/20/2018, 1:49:02 AM1 votes

The skarner rework is actually the most indefensible rework in League of Legends. It's impossible to balance because of the pillar system, it made skarner less fun to play, less reliable, added a burden of game knowledge, and for some reason the playtest team jokes about how they don't even bother trying to playtest skarner because of how badly the pillars mess up the flow of the game.

Pre rework I was top 3 for Skarner in NA. At one point I had a KDA of 7 and a 60% win rate over like a hundred games.

Cronofuge10/20/2018, 2:34:47 AM1 votes

While he's not in the dumpster I think that current Graves is a huge balancing issue. It also stings that they took from one of the smallest champion pools (bottom carry) and now he's a jungler but I'm pretty sure he was supposed to go bottom lane after the rework, he just ended up becoming a jungle/top then got nerfed and ended up only being a jungler.

PaffWasTaken10/20/2018, 3:56:15 AM1 votes

item 3070 Malzahar

Rivini10/20/2018, 3:29:47 PM1 votes

I would love to have Malzahar reverted to get his damage, MS and attack range back. I played him just fine without the pseudo-Banshee's passive that people still to this day can't figure out it can be popped with a basic attack.

Jeddite10/19/2018, 5:50:33 PM1 votes

Poppy is terrible because of her garbage personality change from stoic, grim-faced lesb' to "LOL EXUBERANCE GRRL POWER CLICHE" drone.

Cavesloth10/19/2018, 7:42:37 PM1 votes

Yeah, agree with both of those, and I'd add Galio. He may not be in the dumpster per say, but his rework didn't exactly do him much good playrate wise, and he's not really fun to play anymore.