Teemo should have a Nearsight instead of a Blind

darkdill·10/21/2018, 7:39:50 AM·59 votes·29,801 views

Teemo's Blind has always been tough to balance. Depending on who he's up against, the Blind is either oppressive (i.e. against Tryndamere Nasus Udyr XinZhao Trundle Kled ) or it doesn't do anything (i.e. against Lissandra Ryze Vladimir Syndra Annie Singed ). This extends beyond just the laning phase, as Teemo becomes weak if he has to teamfight against multiple ability-users rather than against multiple auto-attackers. It also tends to be inconsistent; for instance, I've heard that it doesn't work against Illaoi's W when she uses it to dash, and that it can stop Azir from ordering his Sand Soldiers to attack.

No other Champion in the game has Blind anymore (removed from Quinn), and Irelia's Disarm seems to be a better version of the CC that works more consistently. This leads me to believe that Riot doesn't like the Blind CC, and probably wish to do away with it.

Now, for the purposes of the topic, imagine that Teemo's Blind was replaced with a Nearsight effect (and that his Q's numbers were adjusted to compensate). Nearsight on Teemo would greatly improve his consistency against varied opponents. Against a Ryze, for instance, he'd be able to stop Ryze from directly targeting him with his spells, but wouldn't be able to totally shut down a Tryndamere anymore.

Nearsight would also give Teemo a big boost to his tactics. Here are a few examples of how a Teemo could use Nearsight.

  • Teemo could stand near the brush in top lane, tag his opponent with Nearsight, and then duck into one of the brushes to activate his passive, making it hard to find him.
  • Teemo could bait his enemy into playing aggressively against him, then Nearsight his lane opponent as his team's jungler approaches, causing his opponent to overextend and die from being ganked.
  • Teemo could Nearsight his enemy and then throw down a mushroom while his enemy can't see. Then he could bait his enemy into said mushroom.

To make it work, I'd change Teemo's Q to a skillshot rather than a direct-target spell, as direct-target Nearsight would be obnoxious. As a skillshot, it'd allow for an increase in range, allowing Teemo to poke divers from outside their engage range, since Teemo's Q won't Blind them anymore.

Nearsight would be a significant change for Teemo, but one I feel would be a good change to make him far more sneaky and less of a strict counterpick or trollpick.

#This is all theoretical, so don't freak out.

76 Comments

gabetheguy10/26/2018, 1:18:32 AM16 votes

I'm always in favor of adding more outplay potential to a champion. especially one as braindead as teemo. however, rather than simply changing up the numbers, how about also making it a skillshot? since teemo has enough point and click poke as is.

Press Q Win10/30/2018, 7:37:05 PM3 votes

Do the same as Quinn. They removed the blind and added nearsight. It doesn't counter autoattacker as it used to be but now it's useful against everyone.

ModAcademy Kayn10/26/2018, 4:01:26 AM3 votes

I remember you bringing this up before, and I remember the sheer amount of Teemo players telling you the same thing. This will kill Teemo top, where a majority of Top Laners have a Dash. Teemo loses any form of self defense, if any of these Melee's jump on top of him, and start whapping away with their autos. Teemo loses any utility in helping out a team member, if they're getting wacked away by folk in melee, with the same change.

This change would only work, if you managed to move Teemo out of Top, and down into Botlane, where it'd act as much more sufficient defense against Ranged champions. But we all know what happened last time someone got moved Top to Bot.

If you really wanted to get creative, and make some coders angry at the same time, make it so Teemo becomes invisible to only the person he blinds.

Atlªs10/30/2018, 7:34:01 PM2 votes

Blind doesn't anything against Ryze because it negates auto attacks, which Ryze doesn't do. Why does it have to negate spells? That would be too powerful. Additionally, if you're picking Teemo into a non-auto based champion, then you're asking to lose.

SanKakU11/20/2018, 6:45:28 PM2 votes

I think Teemo is a great and doesn't need any changes.

Done2510/26/2018, 1:45:01 AM2 votes

This has been suggested for years. It would really go a long way towards making him more balanced too. :(

I wouldn't mind if they made his Q a skill shot either.

xDogMeatx10/26/2018, 1:47:10 AM2 votes

Turn blind duration by 3 sec flat increase (nerf) cd by 7 sec decrease dmg by 30 on all levels. Best way to balance it teemo main btw u wanted balance in some right. I believe change these to equal a good enough lane to not make it unfun for nasus players. Thats a 15 cd on q on beginning which means a nasus player can somewhat play the lol game without hardcore suffering. Which i believe causes toxic behavior due to 'i cant play lol due to teemo' i played nasus vs teemo i know the pain of what they suffer. If theres a better way u can ask me.

Kaisa is Hot11/5/2018, 1:43:59 AM2 votes

As someone who is an AVID HATER of nearsight because of bullshit champs like Quinn Graves Nocturne , it just shows how abusive this mechanic is, it literally gives you no chance to outplay the person that applied it to you while they wreck your healthbar

The Trent11/19/2018, 5:58:30 PM2 votes

I personally don't think that Teemo is really in a good spot as a champion. If we are going to change his blind, I think this is a good opportunity to just add more to him in general. Right now he's just another on hitter that doesn't really have anything special except for mushrooms that don't do much after you hit an elo where people use pinks and scanners.

Daddy Ants2/4/2019, 10:28:11 PM1 votes

A point and click nearsight on such a low cooldown?

Least make it a skillshot like Quinn's.

doiminat0r360011/11/2018, 6:26:08 PM1 votes

I don't think this is necessary.

Not only does it not fit the idea of the ability (it's a chemical blowdart that goes into your bloodstream and makes your vision wobbly) but it is also bad for the game. The only counter to someone like Tryndamere when he is enraged is CC or blind.

Considering it is the only blind in the game, there's no reason this should go away.

Perhaps, it should have a screen effect that makes your screen wobbly or gives nearsighted as well as preventing auto attacks.

The best part about Teemo's kit is being able to shut down AA champions. There's no reason to take that away from him. He's already pretty useless once the enemy team gets control wards or red trinket out there.

Quil Evrything2/10/2019, 3:56:42 AM1 votes

horrible. . it would make him autolose vs darius or nasus that aint right

Nalisai10/27/2018, 4:20:09 AM1 votes
  1. Pretty sure Quinn still has blind on her Q.
  2. Would love to see Teemo's blind affect champions just like Graves's smokebomb rather than Nocturne's ult or just a flat 'all auto/physical attacks miss'.
LatetotheRace11/28/2018, 12:39:19 AM1 votes

Please no... vision impairment is toxic as hell with Quinn already. The main issue is how much damage he can really dish out regardless of how he builds. If his overall harass was weaker, I.E. his Q + 1 auto, then he'd be a lot more balanced. He should have about a 40% reduction on his 1 shot harass but his all-in sustained attack should remain the same as it is. Make him less of a bully, while maintaining his ability to win lanes.

Frantic childe12/7/2018, 2:42:45 PM1 votes

just pick akali and smash teemo XD

Lovelle12/17/2018, 5:00:40 PM1 votes

A point+click nearsight is too strong. Just look at how strong Quinn's is despite being a skillshot and blocked by minions/front-liners. It is far stronger and more annoying to deal with than blind. If he does get this change, then it should be a skillshot ability, like Quinn's Q.

Inkling Commando12/20/2018, 3:25:56 AM1 votes

I think a mod rigged this to make it so no one can hate this idea.

Hammermancer12/20/2018, 3:28:23 AM1 votes

how about instead of buffing the ability vs champions we maximize the 'god damnit teemo' by making it work on towers

teemo tower diver

i piss in jugs12/20/2018, 7:48:17 AM1 votes

There should be a Teemo appreciation day, just like I have suggest a minion appreciation day, where all the little minions spawn as Teemos. It would be hilarious. Everyone would have perfect CS.

5050BS1/15/2019, 11:14:41 PM1 votes

Thing I hate is that the enemy can still see and still can attack with activate spells. If they are blind Irelia should not be able to Q if she cant auto attack.

Panth should not be able to Q or W if he is Blind.

Only AOE attacks should work or skill shots.

Also the enemies screen should go dark like when Graves uses his Cloud.

CHIKILAHANDE1/22/2019, 9:55:08 PM1 votes

I mean can't one just qss item 3140 the nearsight making it almost pointless, when if you were to be tower dived by a KayleKayle or Tryndamere Tryndamere you could just blind them, and punish them for not being able to 1 tap you (tryndamere) or laser you (kayle)item 3115.

ORB1TS1/23/2019, 9:46:55 AM1 votes

I'm all for this! It also wouldn't be as boring for another player that's playing a melee champ finally making trades more possible.

james2k10/29/2018, 3:24:26 PM1 votes

The latter 3 almost never appear top anyway, so this would just amount to a huge nerf.

Śhunpo11/3/2018, 1:57:36 AM1 votes

Nearsight is an awful mechanic. If he does get it his Q would need to be a skillshot.