I really can't farm against a champion like ryze in toplane as tryndamere, I cannot trade because he can kiting in lane, and doran shield is useless because his spell. Minons don't attack him is he land a spell against me. Very very hard lane. I don't said to nerf ryze, I said buff doran's shield against mage or spell with one-target.
Worgslarg6 votesSomeone had the idea for a " Dorans cloak" that reduced the damage of single target spells by about 8, and gave some mr/hp.
Riot needs to implement it.
If you want to counter ryze, go lissandra or any poke mage.
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67chrome2 votesDoran's shield is pretty solid against mages.
For one, Health is way more cost effective than MR against burst damage. MR early mostly serves the advantage of allowing HP/5 and potions to recover the damage you take faster, HP will force more burst to be unloaded to take you down though - as HP is about half the price of MR for what it does.
Secondly - flat damage reduction is incredibly strong vs. mage auto-attacks (which they will use in the lanning phase). An average level 1 Q does the same damage as an auto-attack with the added caveat of burning through a quarter of your mana bar. Anyways - the percentage damage reduction 8 damage provides vs. auto-attacks is much better against champions that don't get AD.
vs. 40, 8 blocked = 20% damage reduction vs. 80, 8 blocked = 10% damage reduction vs. 160, 8 blocked = 5% damage reduction.
Doran's flat damage block is actually more useful against mages than auto-attack reliant classes. Especially when you consider a lot of AA heavy champions aren't devoid of ability harass either, and mana costs tend to suck for everyone that has mana early on in the first place.
ILoveTiramisu1 votesI think ryze don't give a fuk because he never land autoattacks against me.
ploki1221 votesDoran shield new passive : spells targeted against you now draws minion aggro.
Nondeth1 votesBe creative. Ryze requires a lot of build up. Early MR (Negatron on first base) will drastically reduce his constant poke and allow you to somewhat farm and sustain with a trynd. You can then build it later into a Spirit Visage. Keeping in mind that a Ryze will not be building any sort of magic pen (besides his boots) until late game. He will be too busy stacking tear/roa or building a frozen heart.
Also. depending on your que preference, rather it be Draft or Blind. in Draft try and have a top lane rune page catered towards a Mage top and a separate for Fighter top.
ILoveTiramisu1 votesIf I buy a negatron early, I lost the lane anyway. Best item in this case is hexdrinker. But I really cannot farm against him. So I lost lane very hard, jungler never help me and everyone starts to flame me (because I play dat match in NA, in EUW is a bit differents because people dont throws 24/7).