Does blitzcrank even need items?

AnOstrichWithPMS·Feb 16, 2015·33 votes·2,463 views

i feel like u can build literally anything you want on blitz and as long as u land grabs, no one would care

36 Comments

TehNACHOFeb 16, 201538 votes

Of course you do.

40% CDR to piss the enemy team off even more.

disregardableFeb 16, 201514 votes

Plus shit tons of mana. That way you can give them the feeling of almost killing you and then crush it with your 1,000 damage shield. They will hate you.

SmokinSickStyleFeb 16, 20158 votes

I take the fucking bait everytime i want to ult him as Darius, good lord, that's one passive i always forget to calculate my damage on...

Grouchy PoroFeb 16, 20151 votes

One of my favorite things to do as Blitz XP. 'Oh look at me, chase me, I'm almost de- HA HA NOPE!'

SecretAgentHulkFeb 16, 20152 votes

And movespeed (for W). Gotta go fast.

Sire HippingtonFeb 16, 20158 votes

isn't the whole point of a support to funktion well enough without items?!?

SecretAgentHulkFeb 16, 20152 votes

That's the point of a utility support (Blitz, Thresh, Braum). AP supports need items to be effective (Soraka, Sona, Orianna). Nami and Lulu probably skirt the line. (I haven't played the rest of the supports.)

Sire HippingtonFeb 17, 20151 votes

i'm talking about the class support, not the role. You can play any champion in the support role, but many will need some gold which means they depend on snowballing. The support class funktions well enough with low gold, and thus is best suited for the support role(and jungle in the past), but since most supports also scale well on gold, even if they don't need it to funktion, they can also work on sololanes if their kit allows them to handle the lane(lulu, pre rework sora)

67chromeFeb 16, 20157 votes

i feel like u can build literally anything you want on blitz and as long as u land grabs, no one would care

That's why he's a support.

Doesn't matter how many items he lacks, he still pulls his weight :P

TTUPhoenixFeb 16, 201527 votes

Actually, he pulls your weight. ;)

ZinjuFeb 17, 20151 votes

*Enemies weight.

ZinjuFeb 17, 20151 votes

Ironic; Blitzcrank originally was a top laner.

kile147Feb 17, 20151 votes

{quoted}

That's why he's a support.

Doesn't matter how many items he lacks, he still pulls his weight :P

Really he's pulling the other team's weight

Major SparklesFeb 16, 20156 votes

AD blitz for life.

Yandere CarryFeb 16, 20156 votes

that's why he's played as support.... because he didnt need items in the old days to function (back when at 30 minutes the support would have like.... boots and a gold/10 items)

Kitten of EvilFeb 16, 20151 votes

(back when at 30 minutes the support would have like.... boots and a gold/10 items)

People can say what they will about the game in its current state, but that is one thing I do not miss about maining support back then.

Yandere CarryFeb 17, 20151 votes

Balance is better than it's ever been imo, but I never played back when things were blatantly overpowered.

KougaFeb 16, 20154 votes

Supports like Thresh and Blitz are designed to function almost wholly on their utility rather than stats, so items mean relatively little to them. They still have importance, but even their items usually start with utility items (the Support items are entirely based on assisting your allies through either MS boost, enemy slow, or health shield) and from there generally getting a Sightstone. So your first couple thousand gold are already being sunk into items that don't grant very good stats but give amazing team benefits.

That is how "Classic" supports are built and designed. Blitz's grab is so powerful and game changing by itself that it doesn't need a lot of power in terms of base damage or ratios.

ZacsRealmFeb 16, 20153 votes

Thresh item 3031 item 3087 item 3046 item 3153 item 3072 item 3156

AbrahamBaconhamFeb 16, 20151 votes

More swords!

KaisadiIIaFeb 16, 20154 votes

Blitz has a really versatile build. Old champions weren't usually designed to build specific items so there were different options for them to build. Now every champion is designed to build specifically X items...

DigivolveFeb 16, 20153 votes

AP cuz great ap ratios.

lDontLiftIcarryFeb 16, 20153 votes

frozen heart + swiftness boots always in range for more fisting :^)

Athenes LuluFeb 17, 20152 votes

CDR and Mana.

So you can grab more Amumus into your team :D

MrSlowDieFeb 17, 20152 votes

random build thrown

item 3042 item 3156 item 3100 item 3270 item 3110 item 3401

360D3GR3SSFeb 16, 20151 votes

Yeah that is for most supports, you use your skills properly you can build whatever you want.

VesarixxFeb 16, 20151 votes

Pretty much, same with Alistar and Janna, that's why people used to play them as roamers.

Arcade AndrewFeb 16, 20151 votes

Movement speed CDR and mana

Spacesuit SpiffFeb 16, 20151 votes

You are correct. If I ever had to win a game without items (well non-consumables anyway) I'd pick blitz for it. That said, he can get lots of extra utility from his build (there's something to be said for going fulltank and just wading into the enemy team after you use your combo, half the time they'll end up focusing you for no reason).

CoolKnightSTFeb 16, 20151 votes

His scaling is just so strange:

Passive: Mana Scaling >>
Q: AP Scaling (high base => Mpen)
W: (scales with AD & ARpen)
E: (scales with AD & ARpen)
R: AP scaling

So yeah it's strange. His kit makes sence that he should be building tanky but in some situations whe actualy see the entire opposite of that. I really want to see more mana scaling in his kit in the future. That scaling is just the things that makes him so unique in the utility role.

FoggyPawsFeb 16, 20151 votes

I still enjoy AD Critzcrank

item 3031 item 3046 item 3009 item 3078 item 3042 and then either item 3156 or item 3071

Uppercut into ground pound Blitz has a great Crit animation hahah

SookoFeb 17, 20151 votes

Here is the optimal build for Blitzcrank to be a jack of all trades item 3003 - For the passive and AP ratios item 3025 - Slow after knockup, mana for passive, AP, and CDR, this ruins anyone's day if you go against Blitz item 3046 - Crit animation, run really fast, pressure increases because you can trample minions now item 3172 - Run moar faster, moar CDR, some AD for your crits item 3116 - Pray to the RNGods that your Thunderbolts hit someone you are chasing, so you can catch the cowards with the slow. Tankiness and AP item 3110 - Tankiness, AP thanks to Manamune and the last part of CDR

#Freelo

Killer X 12Feb 17, 20151 votes

I can agree with this. Idc if you go top/jungle or adc blitz. If you are hitting grabs you are doing your job.

Conus25Feb 17, 20151 votes

Build tons of mana, get 40 cdr, and ap

NoMonkuFeb 17, 20151 votes

That is one of his strengths. As long as you can land your hook on priority targets(ie. ADC/APmid) then it doesn't really matter what you build.

The items, of course, will allow you to pose more of a threat, though. Getting max CDR makes it so you can spam hooks more and having more mana means you can throw out more hooks overall. You can also buy items to make yourself tankier so you can take hits and get aura items to benefit your team.

j jFeb 17, 20151 votes

Or he's one of the few champs you can build multiple ways. Champs used to all have diversity with builds when scaling was limited to AP gg game is now let's all build the items / see who can build them faster to win the game lols. Riot has removed or reduced scaling on several champs who could be built multiple ways leaving for just plain boring games.