What if you got a 75g 'spot bonus' if an enemy is killed in vision of your ward?

Reynard the ƒox·Jul 5, 2015·11 votes·1,003 views

Then you can buy another ward and get another 75g from that and buy another ward.

It's the opposite of a vicious cycle.

20 Comments

LaceUp23Jul 5, 20154 votes

Nothing would happen differently. The people that currently are smart enough to understand the benefits of wards will continue to ward. The people that aren't won't start lol.

ArroweJul 5, 20153 votes

So if I put 3 wards and a pink in the same spot and each ward will get me 50g each I get 200g just because I spammed wards in one spot, but wait, there was a team fight. Now I get 1k gold, but wait, everyone on my team did that too. Now as a team we just got 5k gold just from wards, but wait, now we need to factor in all the 5 kills and any turrets we destroy, but wait, the other team tried the same thing and all our pink wards spot theirs and we kill those too. Man, does this ever sound balanced.

If something like this does happen it would most likely be that you'd get 20g or so and it could only give you gold once. If it was a change supposed to be focused on supports then it'd be a unique passive on the sighstone or the support items.

Deep Terror NamiJul 5, 20153 votes

When did he say it stacked for each ward or that you get it if you get the kill or assist normally?

ArroweJul 5, 20153 votes

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When did he say it stacked for each ward or that you get it if you get the kill or assist normally?

My post is going off of what he said. He didn't say it didn't stack and he didn't say you wouldn't get the gold if it was your kill. All he said was that you'd get gold if someone dies inside the vision radius of your ward. Also you didn't seem to notice the fact that I didn't use his original 75g for each kill. Instead I used someone else's idea of 50g.

Deep Terror NamiJul 5, 20152 votes

How much you changed the gold was irrelevant to the fact that you introduced things that were never mentioned nor inferred...

Angry MonsterJul 5, 20152 votes

Arrowe has a point. You can not have a empty rule like the OP is having. You need to look to abuse cases though i think that his example is a little off. When someone has a incomplete rule it perfectly fine to question the holes in the rule.

Questions this topic brings up

Does the gold income stack from the wards y/n Would riot even be able to void out extra wards from the same person? Does the bonus gold get split or reproduced for different peoples wards? Can riot isolate that from another person having more than 1 ward out?

Possible behavior issues People killing wards during a fight, cause they are bronze People throwing wards down while fighting for extra gold instead of using it for vision

Deep Terror NamiJul 5, 20151 votes

You don't get double assists for doing multiple assist-worthy actions now, how could you jump to the assumption that it would be different here?

You obviously are just itching to start an argument...

T RexHasTinyArmsJul 5, 20151 votes

Whether his intentions are useful or not it is worth addressing that there would need to be significant rules or it would be nerfed immediately. For instance, do trinket wards count or only bought wards? What about sight stone wards? Are there areas that don't count, or does warding the middle of bot lane now give you automatic half value of assist in any kills bot lane while you sit top? Does the ward have to have been there a certain time, or can you place one at the start of a team fight around dragon and gain gold for the kills you might not get damage on (or that you do get assists or kills if it doesn't specifically exclude this, which the OP doesn't so from the wording it seems like it would given the way wording correlates to game play that I've seen)?

It could be done, but it would need more explicitly codified rules.

Deep Terror NamiJul 5, 20151 votes

These are player boards, not the balance team. There is no need to nitpick everything.

Angry MonsterJul 6, 20151 votes

And this why i hate "IDEA" people. Anyone can come up with half hearted crap and riot is going to ignore it. If people are going to come up with an idea flush the damn thing out, cause riot is not going to take a half bake idea and see if it can work out.

And people on the boards wonder why riot ignore them. These are not just player boards, these are concepts that riot may or may not look into. Why not have a legit conversation?

If people are going to post crap ideas and just want praise; i prefer if they just post that. Save me the time of coming in thinking this a real idea for the game

kile147Jul 5, 20153 votes

Course then item 3361 becomes a free gold gen device that will encourage everyone to put down useless wards, because winning a 5v5 would net everyone who placed one 375g ( item 1036 ). You'd have to make it so that each kill can only net one 75g proc, and it would have to have some sort of cooldown so that one team doesn't get an extra longsword for winning a teamfight. That or they'd have to drastically reduce the amount of gold you get from a kill without the spot bonus.

ZED G0DJul 5, 20152 votes

may encourage warding, I like it. even if its just 50g. it will encourage low ELO peeps to want to ward more

EspadaraJul 5, 20155 votes

But then you'll get people raging at the Jungler, saying "WHY DIDNT YOU KILL HIM IN FRONT OF MY WARD I REPOT YOU!"

You know this to be true.

ZarddramonJul 5, 20152 votes

Absolutely true.

GrashnimJul 5, 20152 votes

Brilliant, incoming support gold, it's about time for a support META to help me carry weak ADC.

Angry MonsterJul 5, 20152 votes

Possible behavior issues People killing wards during a fight, cause they are bronze People throwing wards down while fighting for extra gold instead of using it for vision

T RexHasTinyArmsJul 5, 20152 votes

Plz do this rito, I want to use item 3361 to ward the middle of bot and mid lane, and then just roam for ganks and kills. Hell this would be so awesome "bot lane double kill" yeah, I just got assist gold for placing that trinket ward :D best idea ever.

KoldheartedjspJul 5, 20151 votes

welpt thought it was a good idea and this gentleman ruined it

fuck u smart dude

ShardbearerJul 5, 20151 votes

As a support I would accept this bonus. Hopefully it would also get that occasional terrible ADC to actually use his trinket.

RismonaughtJul 6, 20151 votes

What if it wards mark opponents and if they die while marked you get an assist? Similar to how healing an ally marks the healer for an assist for a certain time frame.