Rest in Peace Tanks

3sTbGoP7ES·10/30/2015, 6:53:14 AM·24 votes·935 views

With all these marksman changes (damage item buffs, new op marksman items, direct stat buff to all adcs, new reworked abilities) I can honestly say tanks will be dead. You are giving ranged ad more lifesteal, more damage, more kiting potential, more everything. Tanks are not even dominant right now and adcs are not in such a bad spot, with these changes tanks will be useless, people will start playing adc top, mid ,even jungle. They will outclass every melee champion and even mages. These pre-season changes look 100 times more broken than the early Juggernaut release.

Also all these ad item changes and new ad items, stat changes, etc directly buff Kalista, Vayne and Jinx.

Kogmaw getting 5.0 attack speed cap, Corki with longer dash than 5x Kassadin's ult, buff to Vayne's silver bots, Hurricane buff which directly buffs Kalista, lifesteal on Mercurial Scimitar, new item which gives adcs more range, stat buffs to all adcs, new broken ad items, Last Whisper buffs and new upgraded items with new stats, it is just too much.

8 Comments

Critmaster Garen10/30/2015, 8:51:10 AM2 votes

the part i find really stupid is the 5 ad and base stat buffs.

why do they need to be stronger early game? theyre getting more powerful items lategame. is it really necessary to make adc also stronger lane bullies?

instead of increasing their lane power id rather have expected a dorans shield buff to give melees a better way to fight their constant poke early on.

AkabaneKun10/30/2015, 12:24:59 PM2 votes

Why are you or anyone here surprised about this? It was pretty obvious this "adc rework" was just going to be an excuse to make adcs the overlords again, since they are getting outclassed by some toplaners atm, and we can't have that can we.

Silents42910/31/2015, 12:10:28 AM2 votes

It's tiresome to read complaints that disregard the context for them, KogMaw is getting the attack speed boost at the cost of mobility, this leaves him vulnerable to anything.

If marksmen were actually ever going to outclass the other roles it would have happened a long time ago now, it isn't going to happen just because they are getting changes.

adcs are not in such a bad spot,

No actually they are and have been, They had terrible itemization with no real diversity, there currently is always a best ADC leaving the rest in the dust, and none of them really played different making it hard for Riot to make new marksmen that weren't just better versions of an older one.

The entirety of the game is having marksmen be the backbone damage of your team making them the main target for everyone else, this isn't fun in the current state at all.

And if you are going to complain about changes, please just try thinking a little longer. "This item is getting nerfed, is another change here that may be causing this?"

The item costs raising across the board is being compensated with a higher gold income and having a new early objective that gives gold.

"Armor items getting nerfed again, tanks are dead ggwp"

Armor items are getting lightly toned down because the defensive tree is insanely good and had they not toned the items down tanks would become overpowered.

I am a tank jungle main, they are my favorite role and I love everything about them, but this is not a role that should ever be dominate, When cinderhulk ran rampant and marksmen were killing themselves just for hitting a high HP thornmail + gromp buff tank it was stupid, when every game you were sure to go against 3 tanks, that was stupid. Theres a massive misconception that tanks are meant to be immune to the marksmen/mage/assassin damage for some reason, but no one asks if that is how tanks are meant to be then how the hell are you suppose to kill them?

lB2kGRlc8y10/30/2015, 12:33:55 PM1 votes

They need to restore cinderhulk to its prime to counterbalance the change, as the tank meta was also the only thing that facilitated against the assassin meta of old and allowed champions who weren't given 3 free passives and spammable mobility to survive.

Melledoneus10/30/2015, 9:23:53 PM1 votes

Goodness forbid tanks get one good thing before it's nerfed.

I'm a Shen main for life. And I'll be damned if I ever play him support.

g07h4xf0010/30/2015, 11:41:09 PM1 votes

Basically they have to revert every gutting they did to armor items in 5.16 and cinderhulk. Holy shit Rito dropped the ball hard with this preseason