Event horizon is complete bullshit. This should be the event horizon.

My eeeeel·2/14/2015, 1:53:50 PM·64 votes·4,842 views

I believe there is no employee in Riot who studied physics. You don't get stunned if you touch event horizon. You can't see what's going on inside the event horizon from the outside and there is no way to communicate in and out. Therefore, it should just create a giant circle that impairs enemy outside from seeing inside or inside from seeing outside (even with wards or allied visions like graves w) It would be way more interesting because Veigar would be able to use it on enemy to make him difficult to dodge skillshots or use on teammate to make enemy difficult to land skillshots, not just placing a giant stun zone without counterplay.

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ModKnightsKemplar2/14/2015, 3:17:42 PM23 votes

Haha applying physics... I agree that this would be a cool skill, but not for Veig. He needs the stun. I don't think anyone is under the impression that it accurately represents the concept of an event horizon.

SpecterVonBaren2/14/2015, 8:34:34 PM4 votes

I love this idea. It also fits with what Riot said they want Veigar's E to be which is a cage to torment his enemies in. Having it remove my vision of the outside would certainly torment me and make it so trapping your enemy actually accomplishes something.

MXXIV2/15/2015, 12:56:30 AM4 votes

So if you want to be so realistic... the Event Horizon should smash all enemies together, kill them and steal all their stats permanently.

Tengrichan2/14/2015, 9:09:32 PM4 votes

Fun abilities in this game?But burden of knowledge,etc. insert some bullshit excuse here.

killd0zer2/14/2015, 4:59:36 PM3 votes

Infinite Duress should have have an infinite duration.

Fertsa2/14/2015, 2:36:07 PM2 votes

i heard they are putting a delay on it with the reasoning of "experienced veigar players can instantly stun you with no opening for you to react". i also heard they are making his Q a skillshot and nerfing his ult.

TomA3X2/14/2015, 3:31:02 PM2 votes

Thats an awesome idea. Are you also suggesting that it could have a gravitational like pull? Like A slow that decreases if you are walking away but acts as a MS buff if you are moving in? Maybe thats too complicated, but black holes :D

Vlasimuthe2/15/2015, 1:24:37 AM2 votes

How about inside the event horizon a stun wall moves from one side to the other or the event horizon slowly shrinks towards the center and anyone caught inside it would be stunned unless the flashed. Maybe have the walls pop up one at a time, maybe it could be like a mini Orianna ult the draws people to the center (into his w for instance). So many rework possibilities.

Yandere Carry2/15/2015, 5:16:23 AM2 votes

that actually sounds really cool

Tin Tarantino2/14/2015, 8:12:03 PM1 votes

Having a point that slowly expands and has a heavier slow(up to 99%) the closer you are to the center and denied vision would be pretty cool, they could also make champions inside take additional damage to compensate for the DFG removal since the projectiles would hit harder when they are assisted by the gravitational pull.

Audiomancy2/14/2015, 4:52:57 PM1 votes

If we're basing it off real life physics, wouldn't it just swallow the whole map?

junglerboy162/14/2015, 4:49:45 PM1 votes

Keep the stun, and add the vision debuff on top. A real event horizon is like "the point of no return" once you go past it, you are stuck in the black hole forever, so the stun makes sense. Light is also permanently trapped though, so adding the vision reduction would be a nice flare.

The Ellimiist2/15/2015, 12:54:55 AM1 votes

Maybe they should do this if they plan to keep viegs nerfed everything stats from pbe

Wydiwyg2/14/2015, 3:43:34 PM1 votes

Well, technically...:

..it's all just speculation. Several physicists, including but not limited to Stephen Hawking, do at least partially disagree with what we believe to know about black holes (and black holes really are about the only things to refer to when talking about event horizons).
..you can't be in a horizon. All you can do is approach and cross it and then you are behind/beyond it (from an outside spectator's POV), not within.
..you sort of do get "stunned" by crossing the Event Horizon. Frankly, it's more of a 99.999...99% slow, but a singularity's gravity will certainly make sure that you won't notice a difference..ever. Sorry, couldn't resist.

That being said, I like the idea of a "smoke screen" kind of mechanic added to Veigar's E. That in addition to his (nerfed) stun would leave it a little more powerful than what it is on the PBE right now. Completely replacing it, however, would probably make him even worse.

The Soulforged2/15/2015, 1:03:43 AM1 votes

Realistically, entering the event horizon should stun you for the duration of the horizon.

PentaJump2/15/2015, 7:59:06 AM1 votes

The current event horizon makes some sort of sense. To anyone looking at the black hole, they will see a lot of objects frozen in space and time, in a circle around the center of the black hole. This is the event horizon. Veigar's stun does that well, assuming they are stunned rather than walking around inside a cage.

Xengre2/15/2015, 1:51:40 AM1 votes

I like this. What about also forcing units that enter the Event Horizon to remain inside for the duration of the ability unable to escape on top of the Graves Smokescreen effect? This isn't as powerful as a stun but it is still quite strong and has unique elements. Flash and non-target blinks could still escape the event horizon.

NullDragon2/16/2015, 4:10:07 AM1 votes

Screw it. Just go full I HAVE YOU NOW.

Jarvan ult. Ranged jarvan ult. That stuns(for a shorter duration, a second or less) if you dash outside of it.

Boom, there we go. Like Disruptor in DOTA 2. Also people can go in, but not come out, I guess?

Akali is SO HOT2/14/2015, 7:05:57 PM1 votes

Yes you can. Time stops at the event horizon meaning all you see are still images.

Der Metzger2/14/2015, 7:49:00 PM1 votes

logged in just to say that is an awesome idea for an ability not viegar tho.Awesome idea for a new champ tho hope riot implements this idea into an ability one day would be awesome but couldnt do damage tho cus thatd be crazy in teamfights