NERF DARIUS

twidledidle·Aug 19, 2018·15 votes·6,850 views

DARIUS, can heal himself and amplifies with a spirit vissage, HE CAN SLOW YOU BY 90% which is also an aa reset, HE GETS FREE ARMOR PEN PULLS YOU IN AND SLOWS YOU, HIS PASSIVE GIVES HIM TOO MUCH DAMAGE, his ultimate O MY GOD, HE CAN CAST IT UP TO 5 FUCKING TIMES AND IT DOES 1000 TRUE DAMAGE, HOW DO YOU FUCKING THINK THAT THIS CHAMP IS COMPLETELY OK??? Whats your excuse? KITE HIM? HE TAKES GHOST AND HAS PHAGE. DONT FIGHT HIM? STAY UNDER TOWER? HE BUILDS FULL FUCKING TANK AND HE CAN STILL ONESHOT YOU TELL ME WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO NERF THIS FUCKING CHAMPION

46 Comments

Napoleon3Aug 23, 201810 votes

darius is unbalanced

Napoleon3Aug 23, 20187 votes

true bro i have laned vs a darius with ghost as a quinn i maxed w and botrk first item and he dived me on tower and dunked all my teammates

LordGeovanniJun 14, 20196 votes

Darius needs a hard nerf I think his E armor pen should be removed if not only provide 3 seconds armor pen after using E. Bleed Base and ratio nerfed and his bonus ad on the bleed removed He needs mass Cooldown nerfs on every single one of his abilites maybe not early game but yeah later and thus early for later. lastly his ult rank 3 shouldnt lost mana cost or full reset the partial rest it had before was fine. decrease the rest time earlier in the game and increase it slightly late game. they should also revert the heal buff they gave him Increasing his healing isnt the solution ranged burst per second across the game needs to go down. This will leave him weak but no weaker than any other fighter and as soon as ranged mages and adcs lower damage and silly champs like yasou lose silly things like his tower saftey ult his post ult pen and his free shield also make crit damage -30% damage not -10% for 200% crit chance then fighters and tanks will have a place in the game again along with black cleaver nerfs and defensive item buffs/ reverts

twidledidleJun 14, 20192 votes

This is too much, after playing him for a long time, he is garbage late game, and no competitive status, he needs a buff OMEGALUL

LordGeovanniJun 16, 20192 votes

He's one of the hardest early game bullies top lane that isnt ranged he needs to be garabge late game. or make his early game garbage. Darius is by no means garbage late game except by being an melee champion with no mobility. Him being my first level 5 champion when the mastery system came out because it was spamming him for his broken passive specifically which only got stronger when they reworked him. Melee fighters will never get out of the dumpster if they dont have mobility unless they massively out outstat ranged champions.

The heal nerf is just a nerf back to where he was before the last 3 patches the ult nerf is just a nerf to where it was before he was reworked same with the passive nerf and then some (he was still 50% back then) he will still have healing that he didnt have before his rework and his bleed but it wont be another full auto attack every 5 seconds per tick. He wont be able to early game bully people out of lane like he does already but thats the goal. even if it is too much (which it wont be unless you trying to play a nerfed champion as if he never got nerfed then cry about it anyone remember adc2k17 which got most of the adcs back to 48-50% in less than 3 months) if hes too weak buff him from there just dont buff his bleed or healing which is already the best infight healing of any of the juggernauts. Illaoi can get 5% missing healing per slam but Darius gets 12%(i think the buff was more because of the buff but idk the number) on a really low cooldown q. Illaoi can slam more by using multiple spells but doesnt get more healing for multiple tentecles or multiple people hit while darius gets more healing for multiple people hit

twidledidleJun 17, 20191 votes

You are saying if you have an oppressive and strong early game, you should have a shitty late game? So, Irelia,riven,jax are both good early game and late game and can fuck darius up if they are good players, darius is dog shit vs ashe, cait, kaisa, etc, he is terrible late game, gets pooped by mages

LordGeovanniJun 18, 20191 votes

Jax and irelia need you top play into their strengths after they have stacked up their passives. Riven is riven. but darius wins the short trade and wins the long trade with his bleed early game you cant even short trade him because he slows you and pulls you back in after you blow your skills and try to leave. Jax is bad early because of his low hp and long cooldowns. Irelia idk specifically but i havent much problems with her since her rework since she takes to long to ramp up. Everyone and their mother talks about how darius blows up getting kited but he doesnt only face ranged champions and does face melee champions in lane more often than not which is where he gets his inital feed. He's one of the few champions that wins lane phase that isnt versus ranged so he gets to be seen as useless if he doesnt absolutely stomp the lane becuase thats what is normal for him. Riven is another champ that falls into that fallacy

Monti KenchoFeb 11, 20201 votes

Riven doesn't really STOMP even if she wins early. She is decent at every point of the game but only really good in the midgame after all her spikes.

TutunKamonOct 28, 20191 votes

So firstly you say he needs to get nerfed... now he needs a buff?

Napoleon3Aug 23, 20185 votes

he was tanky and he dont have problem to dive me on my tower

Napoleon3Aug 28, 20185 votes

yes he should be nerfed but riot is buffing him as the best option to balance the game

twidledidleNov 3, 20182 votes

balance the game in whos favor, HIM? In the top lane he is a monster, because there are no really good picks into where you can kite him if he takes ghost and freezes on you if he is a good darius player, i dont know why they are giving soo much damage to a tank that can self sustain himself and has a good amount of CC

SuperLuigiLXIVAug 19, 20183 votes

I mean, you were playing Irelia.

If you take a ramp-up champion against a Darius, and he knows the matchup better than you, you're gonna get potatoed.

Critmaster GarenAug 23, 20185 votes

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I mean, you were playing Irelia.

If you take a ramp-up champion against a Darius, and he knows the matchup better than you, you're gonna get potatoed.

im telling you guys.

bronze is getting their pacifier nefs to garen and yorick next patch, even if theyre relatively small and are going to impact high mmr more than low mmr. because people at low mmr are still shit at playing against them, 20 damage nerfs or no nerfs.

next up theyll scream for darius nerfs until they get them.

why do you think riot keeps overbuffing adc and went back on the adc nerfs almost immediately? because low mmr sucks at playing them, and they scream the loudest.

Lordk0zAug 23, 20183 votes

DARIUS, can heal himself and amplifies with a spirit vissage

So can literally every other heal in the game.

E CAN SLOW YOU BY 90% which is also an aa reset

His W is the 90% slow reset, his E is the pull. And it's one second.

HIS PASSIVE GIVES HIM TOO MUCH DAMAGE

It's almost like that's his core gimmick.

his ultimate O MY GOD, HE CAN CAST IT UP TO 5 FUCKING TIMES AND IT DOES 1000 TRUE DAMAGE, HOW DO YOU FUCKING THINK THAT THIS CHAMP IS COMPLETELY OK??

It's a kill reset that works off of his gimmick and needs to be built up to. If he doesn't land a kill, the reset doesn't go off and he's without his ult.

KITE HIM? HE TAKES GHOST AND HAS PHAGE.

So he can walk slightly faster and still get kited to oblivion because his effective range is trash and he eats CC.

DONT FIGHT HIM? STAY UNDER TOWER?

What, and you normally keep all-inning someone who's ahead of you in lane?

HE BUILDS FULL FUCKING TANK

It's almost like he's a juggernaut or something.

AND HE CAN STILL ONESHOT YOU

What kind of Irelia build are you going where you have around 1k hp?

twidledidleAug 23, 20185 votes

Buddy darius w and e both slow you fucking monkey and although other characters can heal others, he can AOE heal himeself for 36% and stacks with spirit vissage

Lordk0zAug 24, 20184 votes

Buddy darius w and e both slow you fucking monkey

His E slows for 40%........also for one second.

although other characters can heal others, he can AOE heal himeself for 36% and stacks with spirit vissage

So Aatrox you're DrMundo telling Illaoi me Mordekaiser there's Nasus no Olaf other Trundle champions Udyr in Volibear the Yorick game Garen who can heal themselves.

Seriously, out of all the Juggernauts in the game, only Urgot , Skarner , and Shyvana don't have self-heals. And I'd be here all day if I just listed all the Champs with some form of innate sustain.

twidledidleAug 24, 20186 votes

BROOOO im saying he can AOE HEAL HIMSELF FOR 36% and the cd is EXTREMELY low once 40% cdr, and out of all the champs you listed they dont heal as much and or have the same amount of cc Darius has, can they also do 1k true damage to 5 other enemies? and get a shit ton of free damage from their passives? no! darius needs a little nerf to his kit hes doing too much damage by just building full tank

DarukongSrOct 31, 20181 votes

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BROOOO im saying he can AOE HEAL HIMSELF FOR 36% and the cd is EXTREMELY low once 40% cdr, and out of all the champs you listed they dont heal as much and or have the same amount of cc Darius has, can they also do 1k true damage to 5 other enemies? and get a shit ton of free damage from their passives? no! darius needs a little nerf to his kit hes doing too much damage by just building full tank

BRRRROOOOOOO homie dawg....git gud and win. Darius is one of the most punishable champs in the game.

twidledidleNov 3, 20183 votes

PUNISHABLE BY WHOOOOOOO, ganks????? post 6 if darius has a phage he will get a double kill if your top laner is squishy, he'll five stack him because they dont have a brain and back off from darius, and then ult kill him, he'll get an ult reset AND his passive will instantly apply 5 stacks onto you

DarukongSrNov 3, 20182 votes

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PUNISHABLE BY WHOOOOOOO, ganks????? post 6 if darius has a phage he will get a double kill if your top laner is squishy, he'll five stack him because they dont have a brain and back off from darius, and then ult kill him, he'll get an ult reset AND his passive will instantly apply 5 stacks onto you

Your argument is really bad. If they don't have a brain then that's on them and they should lose. It's actually really easy to gank Darius with half a brain. Jax, fiora, malphite, vayne, jayce, teemo, quin, aatrox, tryn, kennen, mao, Nas, Shen, etc all easy win a gank against dar with junglers like graves, Lee, yi, kayn, even, etc. All the laner has to do is back up from dar at 3 stacks, rotate out for the jg to go in, and that's it. By using half your brain you deny Darius 5 stacks and he gets murdered. Oh does he pull the laner back in? It's predictable, that's why you run at 3 stacks after blowing some damage on him. He can only get one more stacks before you run away again and now is E is on CD. I've been murdered by ganks plenty of times enough to know that dar doesn't win against ganks half as often as people pretend. Going from the other way around as well, I love getting ganks or giving them when the enemy team has a Darius top. It's so easy that it's laughable. I've never had an instance where Darius didn't die during the gank unless he flash ghosted away. Just get over yourself man, half the champs I listed above are way more op than Darius, yet you complain about Darius who has every form of counterplay under the sun. You disgust me.

twidledidleNov 3, 20182 votes

you are replying as to what high elo players would do, but down here in the depths of gold, they are idiots and dont know how to disengage or how to take trades that benefit the situation, they take pointless trades in minion waves they are terrible and there is nothing you can do once darius is unkillable

DarukongSrNov 4, 20181 votes

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you are replying as to what high elo players would do, but down here in the depths of gold, they are idiots and dont know how to disengage or how to take trades that benefit the situation, they take pointless trades in minion waves they are terrible and there is nothing you can do once darius is unkillable

Your argument continues to weaken. It's called learning and improving at the game my friend. Can't put on safety wheels forever. I mean, by your argument, 90% of the roster can easily pubstomp in low elo by a low elo main. Should they all be unreasonably nerfed by the preferences of salty bronze/silver players?

twidledidleNov 4, 20183 votes

Im saying bad darius players dont get punished by bad players because in everything he has, he can self sustain in lane and it makes it really easy for him to do that with his e auto w q combo, it does way too much damage, and his E range is not something to laugh about, so dont make the argument by playing far back, because once he gets phage and pops ghost, you are so incredibly fucked

DarukongSrNov 4, 20182 votes

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Im saying bad darius players dont get punished by bad players because in everything he has, he can self sustain in lane and it makes it really easy for him to do that with his e auto w q combo, it does way too much damage, and his E range is not something to laugh about, so dont make the argument by playing far back, because once he gets phage and pops ghost, you are so incredibly fucked

It sounds to me you just need to learn how to play against him. I will make the argument of kiting him because it's very possible, ive done it. I actually like seeing dar on the enemy team because he is so incredibly easy to gank, kite, outsplitpush, outscale, out teamfight, and out build. Build armor pen, grievous wounds, and %hp damage on any dps champ and it becomes an auto win by default (aka two items: bork and the grievous wounds last whisper item). If you're a mage, build void, liandry's, and rylais, and kite him forever while destroying his face. Even ghost won't save him.

OuhbabaNov 4, 20183 votes

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PUNISHABLE BY WHOOOOOOO, ganks????? post 6 if darius has a phage he will get a double kill if your top laner is squishy, he'll five stack him because they dont have a brain and back off from darius, and then ult kill him, he'll get an ult reset AND his passive will instantly apply 5 stacks onto you

if darius beats you or your team "because they don't have a brain" then he deserves to win and no matter how much you nerf him, he'll still beat them.

kastriranq tomasJan 31, 20193 votes

I think they should nerf Darius q armor penetration and they should remove the stack gain from that.

Hugh MuńgusAug 19, 20182 votes

Your complaints about literally his entire kit are a little much. It is too much as a sum total, but not every aspect is broken. I think that the passive should be nerfed back to being strictly a bleed and he'd be fine.

DarukongSrAug 19, 20182 votes

He'd be absolutely useless with major compensatory buffs.

SwoshOct 31, 20185 votes

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He'd be absolutely useless with major compensatory buffs.

Is that a bad thing? just take him out of the game lol... who the fuck cares. If enough people want him out, do it.

DarukongSrOct 31, 20183 votes

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Is that a bad thing? just take him out of the game lol... who the fuck cares. If enough people want him out, do it.

You shouldn't post my dude, you clearly aren't able to reason well. Let's just delete your main too because of some haters. Irelia is easily more busted and generally hated than Darius. Lets remove her or whoever you main.

LordGeovanniJun 14, 20192 votes

^^ No

The thigh guyDec 11, 20191 votes

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He'd be absolutely useless with major compensatory buffs.

No. Compensation buffs are the reason we are in this mess.

DarukongSrNov 4, 20182 votes

Also I find it hilarious that you are complaining about Darius while you play irelia xD

twidledidleNov 4, 20182 votes

i dont play irelia, in fact ive only played like 5 games of irelia, i dont find her broken you just need to dance around her and if shes bad you can freeze on her and dumpster the laning phase for her

DarukongSrNov 4, 20183 votes

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i dont play irelia, in fact ive only played like 5 games of irelia, i dont find her broken you just need to dance around her and if shes bad you can freeze on her and dumpster the laning phase for her

Lmfao you are very disconnected from the state of the game. A good irelia will NEVER let you dance around her. Not to mention it is generally accepted by the community that irelia is busted af, and that Darius, while annoying to fight against, is actually pretty balanced and fair

twidledidleNov 4, 20182 votes

this is what i have a problem with you about, THERE ARE NO GOOD IRELIA players in low elo, there are no GOOD players that can lane vs darius in low elo, i can fucking stomp on darius, but hes a pain in the ass when your top laner has his dick in his hands and takes trades with darius for no reason. It is so frustrating thing to see a max build darius that can do 1k true damage TRUE DAMAGE up to 5 times, and him having 300 ad with 150 ARMOR and MAgic Resist, him being at 490 move speed, and having 3.5k hp

OuhbabaNov 4, 20182 votes

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i dont play irelia, in fact ive only played like 5 games of irelia, i dont find her broken you just need to dance around her and if shes bad you can freeze on her and dumpster the laning phase for her

So in your opinion, you can dance around a champion that has infinite dashes and a ranged stun and ult BUT you can't dance around darius who literally just runs at you....

LadenTrackApr 9, 20192 votes

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DARIUS, can heal himself and amplifies with a spirit vissage, HE CAN SLOW YOU BY 90% which is also an aa reset, HE GETS FREE ARMOR PEN PULLS YOU IN AND SLOWS YOU, HIS PASSIVE GIVES HIM TOO MUCH DAMAGE, his ultimate O MY GOD, HE CAN CAST IT UP TO 5 FUCKING TIMES AND IT DOES 1000 TRUE DAMAGE, HOW DO YOU FUCKING THINK THAT THIS CHAMP IS COMPLETELY OK??? Whats your excuse? KITE HIM? HE TAKES GHOST AND HAS PHAGE. DONT FIGHT HIM? STAY UNDER TOWER? HE BUILDS FULL FUCKING TANK AND HE CAN STILL ONESHOT YOU TELL ME WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO NERF THIS FUCKING CHAMPION

dude I know I'm late to the conversation, but they kinda did nerf Darius, his q used to have no delay. plus he was mostly made for countering Garen. plus he is counterable, you know he pressed q if he hefts his axe so go near him to absorb less damage, you should have flash ready if he uses apprehend, and w, basically same thing, use flash, so stop whining

twidledidleMay 9, 20192 votes

I know im late to this comment, but like, If he apprehends you should have flash up and if he w you also flash away, so you are implying that getting hit with any of those 2 spells results in death? If you dont have flash you dont lane?

LadenTrackDec 11, 20191 votes

late sorry school and stuff, but its better to absorb less damage early game so you can build more gold and exp against him late game

edit: i forgot to add if your champion has a dash use it

LadenTrackFeb 25, 20201 votes

dunno if you saw my comment below

LadenTrackFeb 25, 20201 votes

Also yeah you might not, notice it but Laning usually requires flash all the good players utilise flash to the best of their kit so yeah you should have flash up Plus, KNOWLEDGEABLE player know that flash is almost essential for ranked and competetive games

MystiqueEvlyseJun 14, 20192 votes

Yea I agree, like maybe just a Nerf to his heal and dmg, because I remember in a game, that Darius was so low, but he managed to get a pentakill, and here's the good part. He was not fed, and my team was ahead. Like I was so confused. Like even if the Nerf is small. Please Nerf him.