@RiotRepetoir Possible Lucian changes?

Violent Hunter·Oct 11, 2017·2 votes·1,080 views

> {quoted} > > No targeted date at the moment, but he is a topic we're discussing pretty regularly. We don't just want to outright buff him, and so things don't seem as easy as some numbers to help bump him up at the moment. Imo, he needs some kind of small reshaping to address power curve, positional, and item abuse issues.

From one of my previous post that I recently remembered. SO what would you think would need to be done to address those issues? Does that mean he'd have a mini rework at some point? Other rioters chime in of course.

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RiotRiotRepertoirOct 11, 20175 votes

Really depends what is considered a "mini rework." That's not what I would call the type of work he needs. I expect the type of work he needs is small mechanical or stat-based change to make him a bit less volatile with items and a bit more bot lane focused.

Because the solution doesn't seem immediately evident for him, and because there's so much work being focused into the preseason stuff, there hasn't been much progress made on Lucian yet. Sorry there's not a clearer update on the status of things at the moment.

A BanditoOct 11, 20171 votes

Do you have any idea what that would look like? He isn't necessarily super strong right now so I feel like you'd have to be very careful, lest you gut him completely.

CosnirakOct 11, 20171 votes

Do you think his passive needs to just not do on-hit effects or is there a way to make that work? Right now I feel like he's just too synergistic with on hit items like item 1083 item 3153 item 3071 and until that changes he's stuck.

One Ashe OnOct 11, 20171 votes

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Really depends what is considered a "mini rework." That's not what I would call the type of work he needs. I expect the type of work he needs is small mechanical or stat-based change to make him a bit less volatile with items and a bit more bot lane focused.

Because the solution doesn't seem immediately evident for him, and because there's so much work being focused into the preseason stuff, there hasn't been much progress made on Lucian yet. Sorry there's not a clearer update on the status of things at the moment.

@Riot Repertoir Anything about Quinn ?

Violent HunterOct 12, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Really depends what is considered a "mini rework." That's not what I would call the type of work he needs. I expect the type of work he needs is small mechanical or stat-based change to make him a bit less volatile with items and a bit more bot lane focused.

Because the solution doesn't seem immediately evident for him, and because there's so much work being focused into the preseason stuff, there hasn't been much progress made on Lucian yet. Sorry there's not a clearer update on the status of things at the moment.

Ok thanks for the answer and i understand. I was just curious on what ya thought.

DwainTheRockJan 2, 20181 votes

Hello, I would have a suggestion for Lucian changes...

Modify the passive to apply on-hit effects with the percentage that goes with it (think Urgot's W). By computing a passive proc as the total damage of an auto-attack (with on-hit, crit modifier, etc.) and THEN applying the percent reduction of the passive, you can soften the power curve that goes with buying an on-hit item (BotRK and BC would apply their on-hit with the percent reduction of effectiveness). You can also fine tune Lucian's power curve by changing the passive's effectiveness at each level.
Make the ultimate shoot passive bullets (think Ezreal's Q). By doing so, the ultimate would follow a power curve that is proportional to the passive, letting it be relevant with crit or on-hit builds while not overpowered. I'm thinking: The ultimate would shoot something like 10 passive bullets during a 3 seconds channel time. The channel time would be reduced by attack speed (still shoot 10 bullets just faster). And finally, each bullet goes with everything a normal auto-attack goes with; applies life steal, gets blocked by Jax's dodge and Pantheon's passive, crits, applies on-hit, etc... but with the passive effectiveness reduction percentage.