Tank Idea

GigglesO··2 votes·381 views

What if we made more items that gave bonus base hp, like how stereks gives base ad? Tank items could make tanks tankier, and squishies wouldn't get as much out of the items.

Edit: Then to top it off, we could actually give tanks tank stats.

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Marshbouy1 votes

Terrible idea in reality but i can tell you are mostly misguided. A lot of tanks have lower base health stats than a lot of squishies.

GigglesO1 votes

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Terrible idea in reality but i can tell you are mostly misguided. A lot of tanks have lower base health stats than a lot of squishies.

That is where phase two comes in, we give the tanks actual tank stats.

Marshbouy1 votes

No. Fun fact, Shen has a higher base AD than Zed, why? Zed is designed to stack AD so he has lower AD stats to compensate. Shen has a lower base HP than Zed because Shen is built to stack HP stats. A champion with high base stats of hp while being designed to build HP would either result in them having an insane amount of health, or they abuse their high base stats and build offensively while still being tanky.

GigglesO1 votes

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No. Fun fact, Shen has a higher base AD than Zed, why? Zed is designed to stack AD so he has lower AD stats to compensate. Shen has a lower base HP than Zed because Shen is built to stack HP stats. A champion with high base stats of hp while being designed to build HP would either result in them having an insane amount of health, or they abuse their high base stats and build offensively while still being tanky.

as if that isn't already happening.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Terrible idea in reality but i can tell you are mostly misguided. A lot of tanks have lower base health stats than a lot of squishies.

I mean, anyone designed to scale with Tanky items in the sense that they are a hyper tank. (Akin to a Hyper carry) then they would naturally have a weaker early game.

The potential problem with tank items I imagine, would be the shared item space with Juggernauts. Can you make a good tank item that doesn't drive Juggernauts out of line?

As someone who prefers Caster tanks, I would probably prefer adding CDR. Perhaps a slight buff to the stats of Frozen Heart. Or look as some of the eternity items such as righteous glory or possibly even RoA. (Not really a tank item anymore, even on Maokai)

Edit: if you really want to be the enemy of Hybridization, you would offer the exact opposite in itemization. Instead of granting % Base HP, offer % Bonus HP. That would make it a Decent Tank item, as it requires more HP to scale with and become effective. (See Cinderhulk) Though potentially, Juggernauts could still use such an item.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

A lot of squishy champions have higher base health than tanks.

GigglesO1 votes

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A lot of squishy champions have higher base health than tanks.

So we realize there is an issue with rito balancing already. Phase two is giving tanks actual tank stats.

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