Black cleaver on Talon

The Tilted King·5/6/2015, 5:26:20 PM·3 votes·990 views

since the changes to black cleaver, im not sure if this item is a good buy on talon anymore. Anyone have any input?

10 Comments

masterdragon4815/6/2015, 6:02:30 PM1 votes

Definitely not bad, it gives some chase potential, a little health to survive sticky situations, and the CDR is really nice. With the removal of the flat pen, however, it doesn't serve your burst rotation as well as it previously did. It's much more important to get last whisper earlier, but I don't think that means that BC is a useless item on him. Your full combo, when used on the enemy team, will still do an excellent job of removing armor from their team, making any physical damage followup from your team pretty effective.

Meep Man5/6/2015, 6:22:06 PM1 votes

It makes him able to stick to his target since the movement speed boost applies on the Q DoT. The stats on the item also synergize well with him. Finally, the armor shred synergizes well with his many % damage boosts, further amplifying the damage he deals. By the way, Talon is one of the few champions who can fully benefit from building the 3 armor penetration items since they can now all be built together without any wasted stats. item 3071 item 3142 item 3035 Put an Infinity Edge and a Trinity Force along with some boots in there, and Talon is dealing a LOT of damage.

lofi n chillhop5/6/2015, 8:13:45 PM1 votes

I've noticed I do like zero damage when i build it

if I have an AD toplane as well as my adc, I might build it after the other armor pen items tho

The Loveless5/7/2015, 1:50:32 AM1 votes

Lw

Grimfire5/7/2015, 1:58:20 AM1 votes

I always built Black Cleaver on Talon, and I still do. I like the new one better since it builds out of Phage and gives more CDR/Health than it used to. I haven't even noticed the loss of flat penetration. That extra CDR from it allows me to stop building Boots of Lucidity to reach the CDR cap (without Blue), so I can situationally build Ninja Tabi/Merc Treads or Mobi's when ahead. I find it's an overall better item on him than before.