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Cassiopeia's gameplay update

exec3·8/27/2014, 10:41:05 PM·10 votes·2,411 views

So the gameplay update has been announced. Is there anywhere that non PBE players can talk about these changes to ask questions and voice concerns? Like one of my main issues right now is that a lot of people like to focus on Q damage however I have a different style and use Q and W to apply E (so I focus on E) but it seems like you're now forcing everyone into my playstyle which i'm not the biggest fan of (I like being unique! :( ). I'm also not a fan of you guys locking out CDR builds, free CDR is a very silly thing to give a champion because when all is said and done if you want a champion to have lower cooldowns, just lower their cooldowns, you guys thankfully realized this and removed it on Heimer (though Zyra still has it atm) so it's very disappointing to see it being tacked onto Cass.

It's also not clear what exactly has been changed to make E more reliable (is it what I've suggested in the past?) and imo Q's cast delay should be removed, you're trying to emphasize the speed boost it gives but having her stand still to get that boost makes no sense and just makes the act of chasing really clunky imo.

Overall i'm not flipping tables but I am a bit concerned and wary given I feel she's currently the best designed champion in the game and my #1 favorite champion.

40 Comments

Ceteral8/28/2014, 1:25:21 AM6 votes

I am so sad about this. I play her jungle, and I play her as Desperada. The numbers and the new passive simply won't allow me to jungler her anymore, and my skin is completely different, and I don't like the direction they are taking it at all.

Thryale8/28/2014, 4:19:01 AM6 votes

Cass is a DoT mage! I am almost enraged at how riot is gutting her. They are trying to make her a machine gun mage like a ryze 2.0! They are de-emphasizing what she is all about to make her more of an "ap carry."

To me, and I'm sure to a lot of ppl, cass has always been a dot mage that emphasized melting opponents(not bursting them down, not pelting them with mini-nukes) and sieging towers. Riot said that they want ziggs to be the main siege champ, but cass was a siege champ before ziggs was even released! Shouldn't she have priority over this gameplay space?

It frustrates me, first riot guts my old karma(who could wave clear like no other) and now they are gutting cass. It's like riot has a vendetta against any champ that can wave clear really well, except for ziggs.

I've always felt like cass's twin fang felt rather tacked on on her kit. It almost seemed like it didn't belong, but just barely fit with everything else. But now they want it to be her only source of dmg.

But riot's not gonna listen to us. No, they've already invested too much time and effort into these changes. There is no going back now, now that it's already hitting the pbe. At best, we'll get a few number tweaks. But the cass we all knew and loved for melting faces and being the dot queen is forever going to be a thing of the past.

ShadowKnight12248/27/2014, 11:19:55 PM4 votes

Cassiopea's playstyle was always to land W or Q (preferably Q, for maximum damage) and then spam E until the person died, refreshing Q and/or W as necessary. In fact, a full Cass combo (R+W+Q+several Es) would kill any squishy dead before the 2-second stun wore off.

I very much like this gameplay update. Anything that brings back Cass to relevance (and introduces diversity in the game by encouraging AP DPS instead of AP burst) is welcome.

My main interest at the moment is how this affects Cassiopea support (something I enjoy dabbling in). At first, I thought her passive was going to be useless, since supports shouldn't CS, but then I read that every second that a champion stays poisoned counts for her passive. This is excellent news for Cassiopea support. Her passive gives her an amazing kick that keeps her relevant even in late-game on a support's budget.

A potential build I am currently imagining would be Frost Queen's Claim, Ruby Sightstone, Mobility/Sorcerer's Boots, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Mikael's Crucible and Locket of the Iron Solari. That would give her a significant degree of tankiness and roughly 200 AP (before passive). With a fully stacked passive, she'd be wasting her cooldown reduction, yes, but she can always sell her FQC for a Deathcap late-game (and supports tend to burn their CDR, given how many support items have that stat).

I am looking forward to trying her out in bot lane!

Serpents Embrace8/28/2014, 12:11:12 AM4 votes

I might flip a table.

After this, Cass might not be my favorite anymore. They're butchering a lot of what I loved about her with her lane bullying/passive and putting a lot of emphasis on the "reliability" that her E got. I remember when before they canned that Lee Sin rework how much they emphasized that useless "late game" attack speed buff to his passive and how underwhelming it was. It sounds like that, and I'm not excited.

I was praying this would never come. :(

Phille Bot8/28/2014, 7:38:48 AM3 votes

I don't think Cass right now has any problem... If anything just fix E or Ulti. Other than that, nothing else needs fixing...

Sunfield8/27/2014, 11:09:30 PM2 votes

I do understand that you dont like change and youd rather see only buffs across the table, but try to understand that every single rework has turned out to be for the better of the champion

Linna Excel8/28/2014, 12:03:09 AM2 votes

Looks like now you have to max E quickly for all ins. I'm not against that, but it looks like at first glance that she's going to fall off after you do max it. I'm also not sure how well the mana passive on her E is going to work out for it.

Her new passive is interesting depending on how it works. The old one was a noob trap so I'm glad it's gone. It's either going to be strong, assuming multiplicatively, or necessary for her to stay relevant because she is falling off hard after 8 or so. Her other spells are losing damage for her new E.

Also yes, it does look like she's now more utility than pure DPS, and this makes me a little sad. I hope she keeps her role as highest DPS champ in the game after this is done.

Moonshade8/28/2014, 12:26:58 AM1 votes

can someone post a link to the changes plz I wanna see what is going to happen to her??