A Guide how to play against Zed

Andrionar··3 votes·345 views

I'm confident to call myself experienced with and against zed. I saw a lot of people struggle playing against him, so I decited to make pretty short Guide.

As an ap mage I highly reccomend taking Armour Yellows. If you are not so confident enought, take Armour Per Level Blues. These runes will make you a lot tankier after a few levels. It would make any assasin feel abased.

If you're wining, you can buy whatever you want, you might even rush a Lich Bane. If you're losing or equal, I highly recomend going for Arm Guard in to Zhonyas, second option would be - Catalyst in to Rod Of Ages.

At first levels Zed is very vulnerable, you must take advantage of it. Zone and make him choose between poking you and farming. Don't stand near low health minions, becouse he will be able to last hit and poke you at the same time. Try to push as less as possible, but at the same time don' let him push, othervise he will be able to poke you much easer and have a chance to roam.

You should know then Zed has hes Shadow (w) up. Pretend that you're going to last hit a minion and make him waste hes combo, only then last hit the minion. In this case, if/then he trys to farm, punish him, even if it means that you're going to lose a minion or two, for chunking 1/2 of hes health. Eventualy you force your opponent to base or it's going to result in a kill. Another choise would be - going all in after you dodged hes spells.

I don't reccomend fighting zed without Zhonyas, RoA later on, especialy if you aren't ahead.

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WalkingInACircle3 votes

And this would work before his buffs, but now his w is too fast and too long range to do much of anything about. His W E cannot be dodged, it slows you and sets up a Q at near point blank range.

Andrionar1 votes

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And this would work before his buffs, but now his w is too fast and too long range to do much of anything about. His W E cannot be dodged, it slows you and sets up a Q at near point blank range.

Actualy, hes combo works a little bit slower then before. Hes shadow has about 100 units higher range and ultimate deals more demage, - since the buffs.

Edited: you are talking about your own experience, probably. Most people below high diamond doesn't know how to dodge zed abilitys, thats why theres so many complaining posts about him. Good players have an ability to dodge Zed and any other champion skill shots fairly well. I'm talking from my own experience.

L0ve Is Blue2 votes

The only reason that Mages are forced into giving up mana and CDR to get a Zhonya first mean that there IS a problem in the MageVSAd assassin match up. If you go against an AP assassin, you can build whatever you want because these guys don't have a cheap item that gives them MR and a magic shield and offensive statsitem 3155 . The only reason to build zhonya is to make up in defense because you just can't play offensive against a zed or you will get killed. And even tought, Zhonya now costs 3500 gold wich is almost impossible to get before the enemy Zed reach level 6, and Zhonya is litteraly the ONLY counterplay mages have against Zed.

Then why is Zed more annoying then Talon or AP assassins?

Because AP assasins and Talon usualy offer place to counter play. Let's say I play Xerath. The enemy Talon Leblanc Fizz Akali or whatever other assassin jumps on me under my tower. They try to burst me down, but I manage to stun them and kill them before they can leave tower range because they used their gap close to get to me thinking they could get me.

Take the same scenario with a zed. He jumps under tower, i stun him, but as soon as the stun wears off, he can blink back to safety because of his ultimate second cast. How is that fair in any way? If you jump on someone and kill them, then good for you and if you get outplayed or things turn out bad, you can just blink back to safety with either you R or W...

PapaGreg211 votes

Who are your top zed counters? I have found Kayle to be very strong

Andrionar1 votes

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Who are your top zed counters? I have found Kayle to be very strong

Personaly, I don't have much problems with kayle. I try to farm as much as possible with my abilitys, without going in to her aa range. After levl 4-6 I try poke her if she isn't pushing hard and eventualy going all in after I got my ultimate, then shes low enought. Also, shes quit easy to gank, becouse she has no choise, but to push.

The most annoying lanes for me are against:

lissandra;

kennen;

gragas strong, if you know how to play;

** lux** pretty hard to shut down if she knows what shes doing, always keeps q for my engage;

malphite if I didn't killed him at first levels.

It's very rare to meat a good lux or gragas player (becouse no one plays him).

I don't have much problems against other champions. In my opinion Zed has one of the hugest outplay potentials in the game - It's all about skill.

Andrionar1 votes

Edited: Then zed ults you under tower, if he has no kills and you started building zhonyas, theres no way that he gonna survive after you stunned him if he won't blink back. Of course, if you stayed in lane with low enought health, you deserved to die.

I don't think that Riot could implement "Mini Zhonyas", wich you would be able to buy before reaching level 6, becouse you don't know how to handle zed.... After reading your post, seems that zed should be nerfed, so he would be usuless and non-pickable agen, or reworked, by changing hes ultimate, so he coudn't blink back to the shadow.

Edited" I'm almost sure that with "Mages Update" Riot going to rework zhonyas or gonna add some similiar item, wich would give mana.

You can find such a problems with a lot of champions. For example If I play fizz,and farm well, got a few kills, I can almost 100-0 enemie mid laner behind theyr tower. I coud probably even kill them without being fed, but not that easy - with a good/decent farm.

Edited: I have no problems playing against zed.... I only lose if someone plays better then me, thats it.

Edited: Besides, if Riot would make Zhonyas a lot cheaper or give Mercurial Scimitar something like crit to give "counter play" becouse of assasins - no one would play them...

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