Miss fortune's new AD ratio on her Ult on the PBE

Red Ryu·Sep 18, 2015·3 votes·538 views

I think the level 1 ult still won't be what people will want, the level 2 or 3 ults will be more in line with what I think people want from it.

I think it works better for her, thoughts on this?

12 Comments

AbyssphereSep 18, 20153 votes

Level 1 ult is fine anyway. The ratio at that point is poor but the base makes up for it. The problem with the ult is that the base can't make up for the lack of scaling after rank 1. Now it will be fine.

Red RyuSep 19, 20151 votes

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Level 1 ult is fine anyway. The ratio at that point is poor but the base makes up for it. The problem with the ult is that the base can't make up for the lack of scaling after rank 1. Now it will be fine.

Think so? At rank 1 even then I have heard people complain.

AbyssphereSep 19, 20152 votes

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Think so? At rank 1 even then I have heard people complain.

The complaint I see is that it scales awfully. It's good at rank 1, like most of her kit is strong early, but then falls off hard, especially given how hard her autos scale by virtue of her being an ADC. I feel like someone who's complaining about the rank 1 damage probably doesn't actually play her. It's great at that point.

Sightless66Sep 18, 20152 votes

Level 1 ult was decent anyway. The lack of damage at level 3 was really the problem. That's mostly fixed now. She'll be very strong.

Red RyuSep 19, 20151 votes

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Level 1 ult was decent anyway. The lack of damage at level 3 was really the problem. That's mostly fixed now. She'll be very strong.

Was that the issue with it? The lack of scaling ok each wave outside the W part?

Sightless66Sep 19, 20151 votes

The base damage of the ultimate is quite good, but the damage per level on the ultimate isn't great, and having no scaling outside of the W scaling meant that unless you got a full channel off, you didn't pass a lot of damage across the enemy team. Given that most MF ults tend to get half their duration at most onto any individual target, not having any AD scaling on the ult's independent damage really hurt you. That's fine early game when the base damage represents the vast majority of the ultimate damage, but late game it really fucks with her potential.

IcyPepperSep 18, 20151 votes

Well, depends on the team comp.

If I'm thinking about it correctly, a .4 bonus AD ratios means that if you land all of her ult in a teamfight (easier with a Galio, Amumu, or Sejuani. Possible with a Leona, but I'm talking entire teams here), you can deal an upward of 320% of her bonus AD in physical damage.

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Late-game, with the right builds, you're basically doubling her ult's damage if you can land it all. If you can land it all.

MimySep 18, 20151 votes

I thought MF was a pain before the added AD ratio... o-o

Im pretty sure she's gonna hurt alot more now..

Lazypeon100Sep 18, 20152 votes

Mf could hurt. Her ult is another story however. That's like smacking some with a wet pool noodle. It can hurt but not really.

MarthianSep 19, 20151 votes

Well wet noodle that instantly freezes considering if she continues attacking you after her ult applied several stacks, each auto is GOING to hurt.

Lazypeon100Sep 19, 20151 votes

Realistically, you get to apply 4-6 stacks of your passive with your ult before you are going to have to move due to someone trying to dive on your face. However, most people can move out before that as well.

Her autos might hurt like hell after, but that is very likely only for one target (the debuff wears off fairly quickly) and just feels lame. It's like picking a champ for some awesome wonbo combo team fight. But your wombo is kinda meh til you can auto again afterwards.

MarthianSep 19, 20151 votes

Still, it does deal a sizeable amount of damage and it will make the enemy think twice about continuing a fight.

I've used her ult plenty of times and have shifted teamfights in my favor on multiple occasions, even with sub-optimal team comps.

And it's not easy to escape her ult in the jungle (which at least for me, is where a lot of skirmishes break out.)