So you rework Fiora because of her R..
And then give kind of the same R to a new champion... Can anyone explain me why? Kayn's ult isn't really fun to play against (or am i missing something?)
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Did you even play old Fiora? I did. The problem of her old R wasn't the untargetability of it. It was the fact you could get uber fed and then nuke a whole team. Kayn's ult is completely fair and it is frankly one of the worst ults in the game when you got ults like Zil, Camille, Zac, Darius, Cho, Orianna, Syndra, MF, etc etc.
Fiora's ult was a problem because it allowed her to murder people in a 1v1 AND whole teams.
Kayn doesn't deal shitloads of AoE damage while applying on-hit effects like 6 times.
Old Fiora could deal damage to a whole team and also proc Tiamat's passive so many times that it was disgusting and had no counterplay at all. Once she pressed R, she started dealing damage and there was nothing except using Zhonyas to prevent her from doing so. On the other hand, when Kayn ults you, just like Zed, there's a delay in which you can do something that could save your life. And don't forget that Kayn can't mindlessly press R because he needs to mark you (so, get in melee range) first.
As for old Fiora, she was reworked because she suffered from Master Yi syndrome: broken in low elo, almost useless/never picked in high elo, especially after she got nerfed (iirc, I didn't play at all when Fiora was released).
Each hit of Blade Waltz at its peak did 160/330/500 + 120% bonus AD. It did five total hits.
Kayn's ult deals 150/250/350 + 150% bonus AD. It does one hit.
I love how people are responding about Kayns "damage" being not that bad, when it's the utility of his kit that's unfun to play against, not the damage.
They recently changed their minds about "counterplay". Now Ultimate like Camille and Kayn are considered fair, so I presume we'll see more of those kind of abilities. Also Zac new Q.
Oh, and have we spoken about the fact that now new champion/VGU have their fair share of uninterruptible ability ?
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of champion that are kind of "unfair" already, but I really thought they didn't wanted to put anymore of those champion in league.
Almost every game I've played the past couple weeks has had at least one person saying how unfun he is to play against.
I really don't understand Riot's logic on this champions kit.
First: Vgus aren't just because 1 spell, her visual was old, her kit was simple and not complex, Her lore was old and when she got fed she carreid old, but when not she was useless in pro play,
Second: Kayns ult has 3 big differents:
- it is single target dmg and not damaging the whole team
- kayn is an assasin that dies in a few seconds, firoa is a fighter that got full life when she just ult
- kayn needs to dmg the target before he can use it
and also his kit is totally different, you can't said that 1 champ is op, becasue 1 spell is op. Taliyah has 3 dmg spells , so these 3 dmg spells are stronger than for example a kayn.