Veigar: Passive Too Powerful

MordridtheBlack·8/17/2017, 1:27:12 AM·3 votes·903 views

While I understand balance happens on a regular basis, one thing seems to always skirt by (as far as I know).

Veigar's Passive.

The passive is interesting and creative, but has one big problem.

He technically doesn't need to get a kill in order to get it more powerful.

He just needs to hit an enemy Champion with an ability. And it has no limit (or at least not a listed one).

So I feel that some quality of life changes are needed to balance out his passive.

  1. Have an ability power limit on his passive. This is a somewhat easy fix, by putting in a set limit of how much extra ability power he can obtain from his passive, it makes it so players will have to work harder to get kills. Sure this change will undoubtedly bring complaints up, but this is sorely needed. (recommended 100-200 ability power)

  2. Make it that he has to get kills (not just hits) to get the extra ability damage. By forcing players to get kills, whether on minions or champions, it brings a new play style to Veigar that he doesn't have. Something along the lines of 1 ability power for regular minions/small jungle camps, 3 for brute minions/large jungle camps and 5 for champions/special jungle camps. Again this chance will bring in complaints but will help balance him out.

Currently as he stands, there is no limit on his passive, and since he has one ability that can often easily hit enemy champions, he can get ability power quickly. So he can build a little more reserved, relying more on ability hits to get extra power from his passive. The changes I am suggesting will be balanced for enemies fighting him...and challenging for Veigar players.

7 Comments

Crett8/17/2017, 1:30:54 AM2 votes

did you know veigar used to only get AP from killing?

he was reworked to have this passive; old one was %missing mana regen. that was it. lol

i don't mind it to be honest. he already is nearly a full skillshot champ; even with upwards of 1000 AP he still has counterplay and this is part of his gameplay fantasy and all anyway.

meowwow78/17/2017, 1:44:54 AM2 votes

something tells me you had a run into him in aram or a 40+ minute game on the rift

Devil Demoko8/17/2017, 1:43:43 AM1 votes

Yea I wouldn't mind him being reverted, I think the new veig is completely imbalanced.

LostFr0st8/17/2017, 1:48:27 AM1 votes

They could find a middle-ground. Maybe only his Q hitting champs. Right now anything stacks it.

LadyRenly8/17/2017, 1:48:58 AM1 votes

Nah, I like the new system. The old one basically rewarded kill stealing. The new one encourages you to be more active and participate in fights.

paisy8/17/2017, 3:12:21 PM1 votes

Champs don't need kills to get more powerful