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Okay Im going to ASK Why the fuck do you chose nidalee Jg?

Jetjoe··3 votes·1,656 views

Dont give me these reasons

  1. "Fastest clear time", its not that fast. Champions like MasterYi Jax Nocturne Volibear also clear pretty fucking fast.

Sure if you take someone like Pantheon or Amumu youre going to clear slow.

  1. No mana jungle clear, with the item 3706 mana regen I havent had any problems with mana regen at all .

  2. The Q damage omg, omgomg omg. No. If you get hit by her Q's you suck, infact most times when I get ganked by a nidalee I just kill her and then my lane opponent.

Shes not a person who can just rip down a tank, her team fights are pretty useless, she isnt even a strong assassin, she sucks at split pushing.

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Buff Jax please12 votes

Amumu clears slow and Jax clears fast. Okay.

Colgate Gator5 votes

Her mobility, skills and dueling potential make her for a scary control jungler, I don't think she's picked for her fastest clears or anything, but to keep the enemy team under pressure, including the enemy jungler.

Jetjoe3 votes

Her duels are only viable if you let her though. Sure she can zone you under your tower during a gank with her laner and keep throwing spears at you, which is too easy to grab, but her melee damage is pathetic. I kill her as an ADC early game, and I suck at ADC

B00B006 votes

If a nida is running at your adc like an idiot then your playing against a very, very bad nidalee

Colgate Gator1 votes

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Her duels are only viable if you let her though. Sure she can zone you under your tower during a gank with her laner and keep throwing spears at you, which is too easy to grab, but her melee damage is pathetic. I kill her as an ADC early game, and I suck at ADC

Your reasoning is the same as when people say "Just dodgepink her javelins", it's flawed on the snese that you assume there won't be any mistakes, or that she isn't stalking you and lining up the shoot.

You're just taking too many things for granted.

Jetjoe1 votes

The problem with this is, she may land a javelin but thats the extend of her damage, She cant do much back for another 3 seconds. Thats the problem where she loses massively to DPS champions.

Atanchan1 votes

Y'do realize that jungle camps do damage, right? And they do damage to the enemy jungler, too?

She doesn't have to 100 - 0 your enemy jungler to burst them down. She's perfectly capable of 50 - 0ing them, because she can catch them in the middle of a clear or leaving out of a gank and blow them up with a spear into cougar combo.

Jetjoe1 votes

Her early game clear is not as fast as people make it to be. A 30 second extra fast clear is not going to get you caught. you should ward your jg and you should ward hers as well post level 3.

I can clear faster with nocturne.

GamblerOfLives4 votes

dude, nidalee is top tier jungler..whenever i play against her, i end being atleast 1 level behind..she has the best clear in the game

Jetjoe2 votes

Who do you main? 1 level doesnt mean much . A jax or yi who is 2 levels behind can wreck nidalee.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Who do you main? 1 level doesnt mean much . A jax or yi who is 2 levels behind can wreck nidalee.

i main jungle:)..and a good nidalee will make you cry :))..you won't be able to do nothing.. Anyway, bronze nidalee, ofc they suck, bcs they have no ideea how to play her;)

Jetjoe1 votes

So lets go based on the fact we arent bronze,

I would ward my jungle and my laners could respond to her.

Someone like Jax, Yi, Nocturne, also clears camps very fast, infact nidalees early clear upto level 3 takes time.

If I am ganking and getting kills/assists , its worth alot more than just some silly old buff. To me the red buff is more important than the blue buff after I get item 3706 .

You wont have as much strength during ganks, if you gank a midlaner like Annie or yasuo, maybe even zed, they have a good chance of killing you with your laner.

You definitely are slower at split pushing.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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So lets go based on the fact we arent bronze,

I would ward my jungle and my laners could respond to her.

Someone like Jax, Yi, Nocturne, also clears camps very fast, infact nidalees early clear upto level 3 takes time.

If I am ganking and getting kills/assists , its worth alot more than just some silly old buff. To me the red buff is more important than the blue buff after I get item 3706 .

You wont have as much strength during ganks, if you gank a midlaner like Annie or yasuo, maybe even zed, they have a good chance of killing you with your laner.

You definitely are slower at split pushing.

yeah.. nidalee levels 1-3 is actually pretty slow compared to most champs now.. once she hits lvl 3 its pretty fast.. but hitting lvl 3 on her in the jungle is REALLY hard (i cant even do the third camp without killing scuttle first or i get executed) nidalee is CRAZY easy to invade now if you catch her before she hits 3 (which is now when she gets pounce instead of level 2 because it was gutted) she really cant kill you or escape and you can force her out of jungle and take her camps unless her team comes to help her. even then if her teams comes to help then your team comes to help you, or your team doesn't and they get a CS and exp lead

either way you pretty much always want to invade nid now because she cant fight you until lvl 3 and she is going to be crazy low hp from clearing the camps. and nid clear speed inst really going to get crazy until she finishesitem 1410 i play both rek'sai and nid, nid is my main but i can clear FASTER lvl 1-6 onRekSai, i can do the WHOLE jungle.. i can do it without going below half hp and i can gank too.

Nidalee does NOT have a strong early game anymore... she now has a crazy weak early game. and if you DON'T invade her then you are choosing to let her get to her very strong midgame uncontested.

Jetjoe2 votes

THANK YOU, finally someone who agrees.

I also think she is dependent on her team being useful. Like she isnt going to work in bronze where you gank a lane and the laner on your team has no idea your ganking even though youre two steps infront of him. In that case shes probably going to die to the laner.

In bronze you also need a champion who can 1 v 2 or 3 people since alot of the game is going to be you split pushing and trying to catchup.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

One level tends to mean quite a bit in this game.

Honestly, you're probably looking at about 500G difference or more per level in terms of raw stats gained on the low end of the spectrum.

This is ignoring the fact that if you are a higher level, you have likely become so by outfarming your opponent (or have similar farm with more kills and assists), so you'll have accumulated a gold advantage from that as well.

Jax and Yi can beat Nidalee in a straight 1v1 scenario because that is where they were designed to excel. Nidalee has different strengths and competent ones will just avoid dueling people who can kill her, opting instead to poke them down in a siege, be elsewhere on the map, or stay with her team to deny them the opportunity to duel.

Friendly Ram3 votes

She's a utility jungler who can fill any niche your team needs.

Lugg3 votes

She really does have the quickest clear in the jungle. Shyvana is probably the closest one to her. Yi, Jax, and Voli are actually slow early. This allows her to invade at will since she can clear camps so fast.

I had to laugh at your #2 about the Q. You obviously haven't faced even a semi-decent Nid player. The good ones throw it at you from fog of war and you can't dodge it and lose 1/3 of your health.

Her whole game is about early game pressure and poke. She doesn't need to take out tanks. She gets her lanes ahead with ganks and let's the rest of her team carry the game while she sits back and spams Q. Her split push isn't bad at all, she can clear waves decently and good luck trying to ever catch her if you collapse on her.

Last but not least, she is arguably the strongest champion in the game once mastered. Her kit is really loaded towards dominating the jungle.

Jetjoe1 votes

Its been proven her level 1-3 is actually slow and she loses a good chunk of her health finishing the camps until level 3, she is really vunerable at this point. Yi and Jax are quite fast early, volibear as well. I take attack speed runes of 20-30%.

The q can chunk a third of your health if you dont have magic resist but that still doesnt mean much, because its another 3 seconds until her next Q comes up allowing you to run or to kill her.

Its a reason so many champions get kills in games. Graves for example who takes so long to reload can be bursted down in 2 seconds. But people get scared as soon as his Q takes 1/2 of their health not realizing he doesnt have much else going for him for a few seconds more.

They get scared too fast.

Her game really isnt about pressure and pokes because she can lose the game also, a nidalee cannot 1 v 5 a team. she depends on a good team comp and if her team sucks, she sucks.

Jetjoe2 votes

I main top, as Nasus but I believe most other top laners can kill her in a heart beat then kill the enemy laner too

Lugg1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szISUrz8VI8

Watch the video and realize that Nid can clear the entire jungle without a leash faster than Volibear can do even 4 camps with a leash. It's been proven time and again that she has the fastest clear.

If Nid lands her Q on you, she can jump on you from halfway across the screen and finish you off if the other laner does anything at all to you. Even if you do survive it, you have to back since you are too low to risk getting CS. So you are behind in lane either way.

Graves bursted down in 2 seconds? Once again it's obvious you have no good understanding of the game. Graves is easily the tankiest of the ADCs and can knock you back or CC you in between his reloads. He can kite you long enough for the other laner to easily kill you.

As for 1v5, no jungler can carry a crap team. However, if the lanes are pretty even (as they will be the majority of the time), she can easily get them ahead with her pressure on ganks and setting back the enemy jungler.

Jetjoe2 votes

I dont need a leash as voli yi jax noctunrne either. She is not the fastest clear. It took her 3 minutes 34 seconds to finish the entire camp. I can do the same thing within that period of time without going back.

Nid cannot finish you off since her damage is so damn useless.

Graves can try to kite you but that is EXACTLY why graves is not good for a bursty champion, someone like yi or Jax is going to destroy him with his gap closer and stun.

And yes, a 1 v 5 Jungler can carry a crap team. Especially when you say crap and I refer to low elo, according to which, you are also in the low depths of silver and bronze , indicating its actually YOU who has no understanding of this game.

A yi with item 1400 item 3006 item 3087 item 3072 item 3031 item 3074 is going to finish anyone off 1 v 1 because his q is going to do 1200 damage in one shot and he can keep q'ing them as long as he wishes. As far as her gank pressure goes, she sucks at ganks since she cant actually turret dive and do damage.

volibear on the other hand can grab someone do insane damage, throw them over his shoulders and bite them to death. He has 400 gold (first blood) or 300 gold more than nidalee in the first 2 minutes of the game. I usually get kills on voli level 2.

Lugg1 votes

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I dont need a leash as voli yi jax noctunrne either. She is not the fastest clear. It took her 3 minutes 34 seconds to finish the entire camp. I can do the same thing within that period of time without going back.

Just watch the other video attached to this thread, she clears even faster this season. Voli takes almost a minute longer to clear compared to Nidalee. Jax isn't even close. I was surprised that Yi was the fastest of the three, but he was still about 30 seconds slower.

Nid cannot finish you off since her damage is so damn useless.

Pretty much sure you are trolling at this point. Nid can take 1/3 of your health with just her Q. Plus she has an execute as well.

Graves can try to kite you but that is EXACTLY why graves is not good for a bursty champion, someone like yi or Jax is going to destroy him with his gap closer and stun.

Early game Graves will burst them down. Rest of the game it swings the other way.

And yes, a 1 v 5 Jungler can carry a crap team. Especially when you say crap and I refer to low elo, according to which, you are also in the low depths of silver and bronze , indicating its actually YOU who has no understanding of this game.

You have no idea what ELO I am since this is my smurf account. Try again.

A yi with item 1400 item 3006 item 3087 item 3072 item 3031 item 3074 is going to finish anyone off 1 v 1 because his q is going to do 1200 damage in one shot and he can keep q'ing them as long as he wishes. As far as her gank pressure goes, she sucks at ganks since she cant actually turret dive and do damage.

Yi doesn't ever get that far against even a half decent team since they just hard CC him and kill him. There is a reason he isn't played in pro play. Plus Nid can tower dive, try watching some vids.

volibear on the other hand can grab someone do insane damage, throw them over his shoulders and bite them to death. He has 400 gold (first blood) or 300 gold more than nidalee in the first 2 minutes of the game. I usually get kills on voli level 2.

You must be playing Bronze to get level 2 Voli kills. ROFL.

Jetjoe1 votes

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Lugg1 votes

Nidalee can afford to lose health, she has a heal. While Voli is still clearing, she is ganking lanes, but most likely he is done after half the jungle since she probably took his buff.

Good luck fighting Nid missing a third of your health. Jax, Yi, and Voli are stronger as the game goes on, but she can destroy them early.

How would you know I haven't improved? I can pretty much assure you that I would take you 1v1 pretty easy since you were carried to Plat in a 5 man team comp. Do the same playing solo and then come talk to me.

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SwiftKitten881 votes

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Nidalee can afford to lose health, she has a heal. While Voli is still clearing, she is ganking lanes, but most likely he is done after half the jungle since she probably took his buff.

Good luck fighting Nid missing a third of your health. Jax, Yi, and Voli are stronger as the game goes on, but she can destroy them early.

How would you know I haven't improved? I can pretty much assure you that I would take you 1v1 pretty easy since you were carried to Plat in a 5 man team comp. Do the same playing solo and then come talk to me.

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1302985725765_9274928.png

again that is flat out false

if yi gets in range he will win. even if nid lands a spear on him all he has to do is meditate when she pounces in and her combo will do zero damage then he just kills her while everything is on cooldown if yi's meditate is down and he is below half hp AND she can land a spear then yes she can kill him.

voli frankly just hardcounters nid, she will never be able to out damage his passive early game so she cant invade him and if he invades her likewise she cant stop him becuase he will either kill her if she pounces in or just steal her buff. the only way she can kill a voli is if she KNOWS his passive is down AND he is below 1/3rd hp. and even then noce he hits lvl 6 it donest matter what his hp is... you just dead.

jax again counters nid.. if she lands a spear and pounces in then he just uses his dodge and stun her if she tried to escape he jumps on her. sure you can kill a jax if you sneak up on him while you watch him jungle and watch him use his stun on the jungle mobs if he is below half hp.

Lugg1 votes

If Yi does his mediate, all Nid has to do is back up and spear him. It will erase every bit of the healing he does and he dies anyway.

Voli's passive doesn't prevent his death to her at all early game. Once he gets some health, then yes. Voli way outscales her, but can't fight her very well early.

Jax's dodge won't block her abilites, so she can still damage him. Plus she totally dominates him early game. Jax needs a couple items before he can take Nid.

On top of all this, if Nid's fight against any of these goes south, she just jumps over a wall and laughs. Jax can follow IF he can drop a ward over the wall and hop to her, but she will prob just get away anyway.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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If Yi does his mediate, all Nid has to do is back up and spear him. It will erase every bit of the healing he does and he dies anyway.

Voli's passive doesn't prevent his death to her at all early game. Once he gets some health, then yes. Voli way outscales her, but can't fight her very well early.

Jax's dodge won't block her abilites, so she can still damage him. Plus she totally dominates him early game. Jax needs a couple items before he can take Nid.

On top of all this, if Nid's fight against any of these goes south, she just jumps over a wall and laughs. Jax can follow IF he can drop a ward over the wall and hop to her, but she will prob just get away anyway.

yi donest need to USE meditate until she spears him and tries to pounce in after she is in melee range she is a free kill for him becuase pounce wont reset she she wont be able to get out and if he is close enough he can just alpha her spear then kill her.

if nid tries to back up he just cancels meditate and chases her.. when she tried to spear him he uses alpha to dodge it and he kills her

if nid commits and tried to damage him in meditate he leaves it on for the full duration then kill her after she blew her combo and all she can do is auto him.

either way all yi has to do is wait for her spells to be down then he kills her.. he will always in an auto attack fight

all voli has to do is survive the spear her pounce in and her takedown at that point with her abilities used he will win the fight and voli passive will PREVENTS him from even getting low enough for the spear takedown to kill him... becuase CAN'T be low enough for the damage nid brings with her spear pounce and takedown to kill him in the combo when his passive is up.. because it would have kicked in before that point.

the only way nid can kill a volibear early is if his passive is down.

as for jax.. yes it blocks her takedown... takedown empowers your basic attack it still an "auto attack" and therefore it is dodged by jax's E

again like yi.. all he has to do is start the counterstike while she is flying towards him in pounce she will land and miss her takedown then he stuns her and kills her

obvoiusly if his E is down and he is at low HP he can kill her.

but thats the same thing in every situation. nid HAS to know that yi'smediate, voli's passive, or jax's counterstike is down.. or she will lose

Lugg1 votes

I am more convinced than ever that you have never faced a good Nidalee player. Try those tactics against a Nid who knows what they are doing and see where it gets you.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I am more convinced than ever that you have never faced a good Nidalee player. Try those tactics against a Nid who knows what they are doing and see where it gets you.

i don't even know how to respond to this... i don't NEED to try them i know EXACTLY EVERY possible way nid can escape or engage on them and exactly how they beat nid. I AM THE FREAKING NIDALEE!!!! i have lvl 7 mastery on her she has been my main for THREE YEARS. i bloody well know her freaking counters. i know EXACTLY what they do to counter me.. i know EXACTLY when nid can get a kill on someone and EXACTLY when she can't. because i have tried every possible way to kill them and i know what works and i know what doesn't and i know EXACTLY how they kill me. and i know EXACTLY how i need to play to beat them.

and unless i bloody well see the yi use his meditate. im not going to freaking pounce in on him because EVERY time i do. i DIE. not 1/4 the time.. not HALF the time.. EVERY TIME. i have tried pouncing out. i have tried waiting out the meditate. i have tried not using takedown until meditate is over.and i tryied just bursting him down through meditate NOTHING WORKS. if you pounce in vs yi and he has meditate up.. your DEAD. END OF STORY!!!!!

the yi would have to be a complete idiot not to kill you.

there is NO point in the game where nid can kill YI if they are even on kills, gold, and hp and they play at the same skill level

likewise there is NO point in the game where she can kill volibear or jax

THESE ARE HER COUNTERS!!!!

yes nidalee can invade a whole hell of a lot of junglers.

but even if you invade.. you not going to FIGHT them unless you can win.

warding the camp wasitn in a bush.. attacking them after they reach low hp and used thier cooldowns.. THIS is how nid and pretty much ANY jungler invades. not by being able to 1v1 them, becuase she CAN'T. all she can do is finish them off if they are low and they dont see her coming

Lugg1 votes

I guess you don't realize that I can see your match history. You are BARELY Silver V. It looks like you finally got out of Bronze and stopped playing so you wouldn't drop back down. You are also 7-8 on Nidalee this season.

So forgive me if I don't put any stock in what you say about her counters and how to play her. No offense, but just because you can't kill those champs doesn't mean Nidalee is weaker than them, it's more likely you just aren't good enough with her yet. Which is fine, she is a very hard champion to master. Just don't be all high and mighty about being a Nid expert.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I guess you don't realize that I can see your match history. You are BARELY Silver V. It looks like you finally got out of Bronze and stopped playing so you wouldn't drop back down. You are also 7-8 on Nidalee this season.

So forgive me if I don't put any stock in what you say about her counters and how to play her. No offense, but just because you can't kill those champs doesn't mean Nidalee is weaker than them, it's more likely you just aren't good enough with her yet. Which is fine, she is a very hard champion to master. Just don't be all high and mighty about being a Nid expert.

i stopped playing ranked because there was no point with dynamic que... which I'm sure a LOT of people have, i just wanted to get a silver banner again. i was going to go for gold but once dynamic que came out i decided to stop.... ranks means nothing now

lets do a headcount shall we? RANKED only.. because you feel so inclined even though the MAJORITY of my games are unranked when taking into account the time it took reach lvl 30 and buy 16 champions and pretty much the entire season 6 i played unranked. and well over half of season 4 and 5 were played unranked

but lets just count ranked for now season 3 nidalee ranked 3 wins/ 5 losses season 4 nidalee ranked 86 wins/ 78 losses season 5 nidalee ranked 88 wins /89 losses and now we can count my season 6 ranked season 6 nidalee ranked 7 wins/ 8 losses (because you know i put jungle primary and support secondary and got support 34 games IN A ROW before i swapped to jungle primary mid secondary) so if we count ONLY ranked i have 184 ranked wins on nidalee and /180 losses

so JUST ranked i have 364 nid games

now ranked games probably account for between 1/4th and 1/2 of my nid games. so ill just you the benefit of the doubt and make it the LESSER of the two.. and call it one half of my nid games

that's still 728 nidalee games and considering my ranked nidalee games is probably closer to 1/3rd of my total nidalee games it's EASILY over a thousand games as nidalee.

so... when i say i know what nids counters are. I FREAKING KNOW WHAT HER COUNTERS ARE!!!!

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Just watch the other video attached to this thread, she clears even faster this season. Voli takes almost a minute longer to clear compared to Nidalee. Jax isn't even close. I was surprised that Yi was the fastest of the three, but he was still about 30 seconds slower.

Pretty much sure you are trolling at this point. Nid can take 1/3 of your health with just her Q. Plus she has an execute as well.

Early game Graves will burst them down. Rest of the game it swings the other way.

You have no idea what ELO I am since this is my smurf account. Try again.

Yi doesn't ever get that far against even a half decent team since they just hard CC him and kill him. There is a reason he isn't played in pro play. Plus Nid can tower dive, try watching some vids.

You must be playing Bronze to get level 2 Voli kills. ROFL.

http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/never-argue-with-stupid-people-mark-twain.jpg

Let him think w/e he wants:)).. YOU WON'T BREAK HIM.. TOO STRONG

SwiftKitten881 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szISUrz8VI8

Watch the video and realize that Nid can clear the entire jungle without a leash faster than Volibear can do even 4 camps with a leash. It's been proven time and again that she has the fastest clear.

If Nid lands her Q on you, she can jump on you from halfway across the screen and finish you off if the other laner does anything at all to you. Even if you do survive it, you have to back since you are too low to risk getting CS. So you are behind in lane either way.

Graves bursted down in 2 seconds? Once again it's obvious you have no good understanding of the game. Graves is easily the tankiest of the ADCs and can knock you back or CC you in between his reloads. He can kite you long enough for the other laner to easily kill you.

As for 1v5, no jungler can carry a crap team. However, if the lanes are pretty even (as they will be the majority of the time), she can easily get them ahead with her pressure on ganks and setting back the enemy jungler.

LOL you DO realize that that video is from season 5.. and she hasn't been able to do that for .. idk 5 months now?

Do you ACTUALLY think you can STILL do that??

GamblerOfLives2 votes

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LOL you DO realize that that video is from season 5.. and she hasn't been able to do that for .. idk 5 months now?

Do you ACTUALLY think you can STILL do that??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWBnpsGAkio

here is one video..youtube if full of this videos;)

SwiftKitten881 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWBnpsGAkio

here is one video..youtube if full of this videos;)

um... THANKS!!!! ill go try that... that actually looks decent.

if i can pull this off.. i will be more than happy to accept defeat this this matter.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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um... THANKS!!!! ill go try that... that actually looks decent.

if i can pull this off.. i will be more than happy to accept defeat this this matter.

I don't recomend playing her:)..needs alot of practice..She is probably the hardest jungle to play at full potential:)..but, if you learn her and you have jungle knowledge, easy elo

SwiftKitten883 votes

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I don't recomend playing her:)..needs alot of practice..She is probably the hardest jungle to play at full potential:)..but, if you learn her and you have jungle knowledge, easy elo

lol i have been playing nidalee for 3 years... but wow... this was the first time i learned how to properly use her auto attack resets.. HOLY **** does that make it a lot easier...

it went from like a 10/10 difficulty without purposely timed auto resets to like a 6/10 if you do the resets every time. no freaking wonder high elo players are so much better at her...

god if i knew this back in season 5 back when nid was OP, i probably could have reached plat...

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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lol i have been playing nidalee for 3 years... but wow... this was the first time i learned how to properly use her auto attack resets.. HOLY **** does that make it a lot easier...

it went from like a 10/10 difficulty without purposely timed auto resets to like a 6/10 if you do the resets every time. no freaking wonder high elo players are so much better at her...

god if i knew this back in season 5 back when nid was OP, i probably could have reached plat...

:)))..

Nidalee is very rewarding when played properly. And her clear, is part of her mechanics;)

GamblerOfLives1 votes

The guy doesn't get it lol.. You can do a full clear with her and be full hp at the end..She has sustain, she has dmg, she has pressure just becasue she is nidalee(she has mobility- one of the best in the game).

As i said, you judge the nidalee player based on some noob nidalee players. But, this champion takes alot of skill to play properly.Her role, is to be annoying as fck with huge potential to kill you.

Master y, volibear, jax..suck at clearing comparing with nida, which is a god. She can 1 shot if she hits a spear. And early game it's all about those 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3 fights..

Also, bcs she is nidalee, there is always a danger of a countergank, if you don;t have vision of her. Bcs of her stupid mobility, she can respond very fast to pings:)..

TOP TIER JUNGLER.

Just bcs you have no ideea what the champion does, or bcs you encountered bad players, doesn;t give you the right to say that nidalee sucks. Especially when you have such bad information regarding jungler

Clearing camps with volibear, master y it's fcking easy..Clearing the proper way with nidalee is fcking op. She punishes mistakes like crazy

Jetjoe2 votes

I do get it, its just that you dont know what youre talking about. "Mobility", do you realize youre talking out of your asshole here? The extra 2-3 seconds it takes to hop over a wall and kill a monster doesnt mean as much as you think it does.

Her gank pressure really isnt that strong as what you think it is, the enemy can really farm under his turret. Her ganks top are useless since she cant dive and do damage, she depends on her spear, and top laners usually have enough tankyness/sustain to avoid her poke, not to mention room to avoid her spears.

If she ganks bot lane she can easily be killed based on her squishyness

If she ganks midlaner shes not getting anywhere since she cant dive, and if she decides to try to poke your midlaner down from the jg, well shes probably going to die when Jax or yi comes and kills her.

she Can never 1 shot with her Q.

volibear Jax and yi are all amazing jungle clears and can clear camps within 5 seconds after level 3.

this whole concept of quick jungle clear by a few seconds doesnt mean much because each gank can take between 15 seconds to a whole minute and a half.

Counter gank nidalee doesnt have that much pressure since her early game prelevel 3 is slow and weak. After level 5 or 6 voli, yi, and jax, lose very little health to jg animals and have the potential to fight some piece of junk like nidalee back anyway.

I do know what the champion does and based on your EASY server EUNE, I have met more competent players than you, Just because your server is filled with a bunch of intro bots as high elo players doesnt mean your champion nidalee is actually good.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I do get it, its just that you dont know what youre talking about. "Mobility", do you realize youre talking out of your asshole here? The extra 2-3 seconds it takes to hop over a wall and kill a monster doesnt mean as much as you think it does.

Her gank pressure really isnt that strong as what you think it is, the enemy can really farm under his turret. Her ganks top are useless since she cant dive and do damage, she depends on her spear, and top laners usually have enough tankyness/sustain to avoid her poke, not to mention room to avoid her spears.

If she ganks bot lane she can easily be killed based on her squishyness

If she ganks midlaner shes not getting anywhere since she cant dive, and if she decides to try to poke your midlaner down from the jg, well shes probably going to die when Jax or yi comes and kills her.

she Can never 1 shot with her Q.

volibear Jax and yi are all amazing jungle clears and can clear camps within 5 seconds after level 3.

this whole concept of quick jungle clear by a few seconds doesnt mean much because each gank can take between 15 seconds to a whole minute and a half.

Counter gank nidalee doesnt have that much pressure since her early game prelevel 3 is slow and weak. After level 5 or 6 voli, yi, and jax, lose very little health to jg animals and have the potential to fight some piece of junk like nidalee back anyway.

I do know what the champion does and based on your EASY server EUNE, I have met more competent players than you, Just because your server is filled with a bunch of intro bots as high elo players doesnt mean your champion nidalee is actually good.

No brother

You don't fcking get it. And i'm done explaining stuff to noobs. So brother, learn the game gain some elo, play vs good players and than come here and talk. Pointless in explaining stuff to you

Jetjoe2 votes

I do get it, and you dont. Let me put it this way, I have a better MMR than you and Im plat V, It proves what a joke the EUNE server is.

Besides credentials and ranks, its just the fact you dont know what youre talking about. I do play against worthy players.

Also dont call me brother, my family doesnt have a history of mental illness, never would be related.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I do get it, and you dont. Let me put it this way, I have a better MMR than you and Im plat V, It proves what a joke the EUNE server is.

Besides credentials and ranks, its just the fact you dont know what youre talking about. I do play against worthy players.

Also dont call me brother, my family doesnt have a history of mental illness, never would be related.

What exactly do you get??? You keep talking about 1 vs 1 vs a nidalee jungler:|:| as volibear, master y:))))))). How can they catch her???????? HOW???????

And her pounce on a low cooldown, sure, useless, every champ in the game can do that:))...

Also, you are plat 5, and have this game knowledge, and talk shit about my diamond 5 account:)).hahahhahhah.

In case you didn't see, you have 15 downvotes:)...

Idk why the fck i bother with this kind of people:)))..SURE BROTHER, YOU ARE FCKING RIGHT..

Jetjoe2 votes

First if youre going to come on NA sever, speak english.

How they catch her? They dont NEED to catch her you bobble head. She is so low damage she is irrelevant, if she comes near them they can kill her, flip her over and slow her down smite her, 2 hit her.

This game isnt about kills, its about objectives, and she cant take objectives at all.

I am plat 5 but like I said, I have an MMR higher than yours, it goes to show how easy it is to get to diamond 5 in EUNE server.

Are you trying to tick me off by downvotes? The league of legends community is 95% low intelligence people.

The reason you bother, is because you know youre wrong and you keep trying to prove a point that is never going to be proven since it is FALSE.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

{quoted}

First if youre going to come on NA sever, speak english.

How they catch her? They dont NEED to catch her you bobble head. She is so low damage she is irrelevant, if she comes near them they can kill her, flip her over and slow her down smite her, 2 hit her.

This game isnt about kills, its about objectives, and she cant take objectives at all.

I am plat 5 but like I said, I have an MMR higher than yours, it goes to show how easy it is to get to diamond 5 in EUNE server.

Are you trying to tick me off by downvotes? The league of legends community is 95% low intelligence people.

The reason you bother, is because you know youre wrong and you keep trying to prove a point that is never going to be proven since it is FALSE.

I gave you arguments to everything:)..and you just said, it's false:).. As i said, plat 5 and this game knowledge..you must be fcking good:)))

And you talk about my second language grammar?? Brother, english is your first language and you made in all of your posts mistakes:)

For example it's not "youre wrong" its " you are wrong" or "you're wrong"..

So, brother, before you lecture me on my grammar, learn to fcking spell

Jetjoe1 votes

Again, its false and Ive explained why.

Plat 5 with a higher win rate and higher MMR than you. You know what that means right? A plat 5 is playing against diamonds and high plats better than you, and WINNING. That isnt a bad thing for me, it means Youre bad.

I mention (not talk) about your english speaking skills because its pathetic. Actually English is my second language as well and I speak it better than you. If youre going to come on the NA server learn how to speak English properly.

Its not discussing small apostrophes and commas, and you know what I am referring to, your combination of words and ordering makes no sense what so ever. I realise youre upset youve been proven to be stupid in real life, outside of just the league world, but instead of actually trying to find nit picky mistakes in my paragraphs, fix your English, which is flawed to the bone.

"So, brother, before you lecture me on my grammar, learn to fcking spell"

Do you know how to spell the world fucking? or are you just trying to avoid the moderators?

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Again, its false and Ive explained why.

Plat 5 with a higher win rate and higher MMR than you. You know what that means right? A plat 5 is playing against diamonds and high plats better than you, and WINNING. That isnt a bad thing for me, it means Youre bad.

I mention (not talk) about your english speaking skills because its pathetic. Actually English is my second language as well and I speak it better than you. If youre going to come on the NA server learn how to speak English properly.

Its not discussing small apostrophes and commas, and you know what I am referring to, your combination of words and ordering makes no sense what so ever. I realise youre upset youve been proven to be stupid in real life, outside of just the league world, but instead of actually trying to find nit picky mistakes in my paragraphs, fix your English, which is flawed to the bone.

"So, brother, before you lecture me on my grammar, learn to fcking spell"

Do you know how to spell the world fucking? or are you just trying to avoid the moderators?

You tried to lecture me on my english, when you make mistakes:)..am i the only one that sees how pathetic this is:)). I never said my english was perfect, but you, on the other hand, talking shit about my grammar, implies that your english is perfect:)..which should be, since you have the balls on trying to actually lecture someone=))..It's more than pathetic, it's actually kind of funny:)

It doesn't matter what rank you are. Based on what you said here. You are boosted most likely:)..even bronze players acknowledge that:)..Before you compare yourself to me, keep in mind, that i was diamond 5, 2 seasons in a row, and this season i capped at d3 with high mmr (playing vs masters). Also, i've been playing jungle for more than 2 seasons. This are my credentials buddy:)..

Everything i said, not only that it makes sense, bu you failed to prove everybody here, what exactly did they say wrong:)

Jetjoe1 votes

Your paragraphs have tons of mistakes. Your English is not comprehensible. That is the problem here.

I realize you insert smiley faces to try to tilt me. It's not working, inserting your creepy face into this is not going to make any of your false statements correct.

Based on what you said here, you don't know what you're talking about since Nidalee has been changed and is not the same. I am not boosted, just because I am better than you, and your server is bad in general doesn't make others bad. Unlike you, I actually earned my ranks through hard work and carrying my team. You on the other hand need to be carried. I have a 75% win rate, youre hovering at 55%

You may have peaked at diamond 3, but that doesnt mean youre diamond 3. You also ave a negative KDA I have an insanely postive KDA.

Ive been playing league for 6 months and I am better than you, it just shows your credentials are invalid.

The fact you don't understand how the game works and that in the current state junglers such as voli and yi will kill Nidalee or at-least be more of an asset to their team, proves you may just in fact be boosted.

I have proved you wrong with my exact argument, even if Nidalee can clear faster (Which she cant), she doesnt do enough damage to kill anyone (besides maybe Soraka), while at the same time champions like Jax and yi can split push lanes. Look up nidalee's rework

Get Rekt kid,

Come back with some actual facts. Or go on your own sever.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

{quoted}

Your paragraphs have tons of mistakes. Your English is not comprehensible. That is the problem here.

I realize you insert smiley faces to try to tilt me. It's not working, inserting your creepy face into this is not going to make any of your false statements correct.

Based on what you said here, you don't know what you're talking about since Nidalee has been changed and is not the same. I am not boosted, just because I am better than you, and your server is bad in general doesn't make others bad. Unlike you, I actually earned my ranks through hard work and carrying my team. You on the other hand need to be carried. I have a 75% win rate, youre hovering at 55%

You may have peaked at diamond 3, but that doesnt mean youre diamond 3. You also ave a negative KDA I have an insanely postive KDA.

Ive been playing league for 6 months and I am better than you, it just shows your credentials are invalid.

The fact you don't understand how the game works and that in the current state junglers such as voli and yi will kill Nidalee or at-least be more of an asset to their team, proves you may just in fact be boosted.

I have proved you wrong with my exact argument, even if Nidalee can clear faster (Which she cant), she doesnt do enough damage to kill anyone (besides maybe Soraka), while at the same time champions like Jax and yi can split push lanes. Look up nidalee's rework

Get Rekt kid,

Come back with some actual facts. Or go on your own sever.

Brother, you are way below my level to be honest. I'm done talking:)..your post is done, so are your arguments:).. Everybody here disagrees with you

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