I am actually hoping for a malzahar nerf soon

Jetjoe··6 votes·529 views

He was already strong, but his voidling spawn is ridiculous so is the spell shield. He is broken

And we have to waste a ban on him now.

Im not the person to complain about zed, etc, but malz is ruining a ban spot which is strategic.

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CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

I don't care if he gets nerfed or not

but my computer is pretty good now and I still can't tell if I popped his spell shield or not

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Your name. If I found you in the Rift, I'd honor you just for that.

But anyway, if you're jungling, do what I do when you gank Malz: Smite his ass. Spellshield is gone!

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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Your name. If I found you in the Rift, I'd honor you just for that.

But anyway, if you're jungling, do what I do when you gank Malz: Smite his ass. Spellshield is gone!

sure the shield is gone.

But the animation says "maybe it isn't" and I'm like.. "omg should I press the buttons or no..."

I know I can't be the only one who notices this, it looks like it blocks more than one ability

Arkale4 votes

It lasts 1 second after taking damage from anything that isn't a lane minion or being affected by cc (slow fields included)

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Well...yeah, you're right on that point. After you pop his shield, it lingers for one second.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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Well...yeah, you're right on that point. After you pop his shield, it lingers for one second.

:/ doesn't that make it the most powerful spellshield in the game lol

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Yes. Yes, it does. Theoretically, it can block every single ability the enemy team has in one pop.

Nitros1 votes

Im not sure where youre playing at, but Malz is fairly irrelevant after his last line of nerfs a couple of patches ago. Dont even worry about banning him, his laning is terrible and his jungling was hit hard.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

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Im not sure where youre playing at, but Malz is fairly irrelevant after his last line of nerfs a couple of patches ago. Dont even worry about banning him, his laning is terrible and his jungling was hit hard.

Malzahar literally has the highest win rate top lane right now (and Top malz has the highest win rate of all champions right now)... http://champion.gg/

I've wanted Malz nerfs since before his rework. Wanted them again immediately when I saw the rework. He's very strong. Taking objectives with 0 risk due to his voidlings tanking everything is pretty rotten too. No champion should be able to take Baron/Elder fast and without losing health. Anyone that has something that can tank for them should be a slow objective taker...

Banana Nations4 votes

Keep in mind Sion support for a time was the highest win rate malz isnt even banned in my elo anymore around diamond hes just useless cause even with his passive hes so exposed to getting oneshot in teamfights

ValyrianBlade3 votes

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Keep in mind Sion support for a time was the highest win rate malz isnt even banned in my elo anymore around diamond hes just useless cause even with his passive hes so exposed to getting oneshot in teamfights

I don't remember Sion support being the highest win rate, but even if he was I'd imagine his playrate was really low. He also has loads of CC and could feasibly be a strong pick. Finally, even though he wasn't popular, I personally thought he was sleeper OP top lane (and later that patch he rose to the 3rd highest win rate top).

With Malz, he's the 3rd highest win rate middle in plat+ and has a nearly 3% play rate. He's got a 0.65% play rate top with the highest win rate. The nerfs hit his jungling, but he's still very viable as a laner. If he's getting one-shot through his passive, it sounds like either your diamond team comps have evolved a lot better to deal with him, or diamond Malzahar's really suck at building properly. His ideal build has Rylai's, Liandries, Zhonya's, and Abyssal sceptre - that's a LOT of tanky stats. There's no business for him to be getting one shot unless he's severely out of position. I never understand these arguments... Jinx, Ashe, Sivir, Twitch, MF, Kog'maw, Varus, Jhin, and Draven all function perfectly fine as ADCs without huge problems of not having dashes to escape/reposition. Why is it that Malzahar can get caught so much more easily? Learn to position properly and you have no issue, and he has a load of HP/armor/MR, an invulnerability active, a silence, a voidling to intercept skillshots, and a suppression, to make up for it if he does get caught.

I don't know what's going on in diamond. I do know that in mid-high gold I see malzahar banned in over half of my games. I see malzahar's side win the majority of the games he's picked in. He's difficult to deal with in general, has a lot of strengths with immobility as his only real weakness. As a jinx main I sort of laugh at that - I'm every bit as immobile and don't have nearly the defensive steroids or ability to build defensively and still output that damage level, and people actually complained in S5 that Jinx was insanely OP. She has never been anywhere near what Malzahar is at post-rework (and frankly, I banned Malz pre-rework as I thought he was sleeper OP).

Banana Nations1 votes

I don't know maybe hes strong I just havent seen anyone do well with it yet out of quite a few malzahar's ive seen. Also remember old malzahar always was one of the highest winrates despite being weak due to only mains really playing it.

Have a Nice Game1 votes

And I still can't find anyone I like to play more than old Malz

I don't want to quit but...

RIP

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