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Can someone explain to me how "smurfing" is actually fun?

Zyrannosaurus··77 votes·18,503 views

So, let me get this straight.

Diamond + players throw temper tantrums that they can't beat people their own rank & progress so they buy low elo/mmr accounts and smurf against new players?

That's enjoyable to you people? That's like saying "On my free time I like to beat up the elderly!"

Over compensating at it's finest. I have zero respect for smurfs.

169 Comments

Quiet Dude35 votes

I like to play with my friends in their ELO. They can’t play in mine, so I made an account to play with them in theirs.

ApexInTheCircle8 votes

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I like to play with my friends in their ELO. They can’t play in mine, so I made an account to play with them in theirs.

Sooo you're admitting to boosting them?

MasterDClone27 votes

no its called playing with friends

Xilixer2 votes

it's boosting. if they were playing in normals it wouldn't be a big deal but if your doing so in ranked. it's boosting.

Sp33d Zer08 votes

Except he could totally be doing it in normals since that has mmr

Quiet Dude2 votes

You know normals have MMR, right? It's separate from ranked. No way my friends can play in my MMR.

Xilixer2 votes

so that justifies you screwing up everyone elses MMR?

it's literally putting the enemy team at a disadvantage in ranked becuase of the smurfs. bronze and silver players have no chance against. doesn't matter how easy you take it on them.

Quiet Dude2 votes

Oh well. BTW you know I'm talking about normals and not ranked right? As in, I play with my friends in normals? Because you mentioned ranked, and I'm afraid you have yourself confused.

Aseraan9 votes

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I like to play with my friends in their ELO. They can’t play in mine, so I made an account to play with them in theirs.

Normal games? Hello?

DeusVult1 votes

Normal games have their own MMR, and so if you are high plat/diamond and your friends are a bunch of silver/bronzies, if you play with them even in normals they have a high chance of going up against a plat/diamond opponent in lane. Where they get stomped and have no fun.

If you go onto an alternate account and play passively (ie dont go around try-harding to show how big your dick is) then you can play with them and both parties involved can have fun

Aseraan2 votes

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Normal games have their own MMR, and so if you are high plat/diamond and your friends are a bunch of silver/bronzies, if you play with them even in normals they have a high chance of going up against a plat/diamond opponent in lane. Where they get stomped and have no fun.

If you go onto an alternate account and play passively (ie dont go around try-harding to show how big your dick is) then you can play with them and both parties involved can have fun

A lot of ppl claim if u play against better players u will get better too soooo... The problem i have is that we 99% of the time talk about ranked smurfing even the post i reply for clearly mention ELO in it wich make it clear he smurfs just to play ranked on lower elo whit his/her friends wich is the point of ppl asking why he's smurfing to fk up lower elo games when he can just play normal games whit his her friends.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

ForFoxSakes21 votes
  1. Just because someone gets fed doesnt mean they're a smurf
  2. It's to try out new things in a competitive environment
  3. To play w lower ranked friends = fun. Forcing those bronze level friends to play at a plat level is total crap so dropping to the lowest common denominator is much more reasonable
IcyPepper23 votes

I don't understand the first two. Obviously OP is not talking about one, so I don't see why you brought it up.

Secondly, number 2 can be done in a normals game.

Number 3 at makes sense tho.

Nevurwin4 votes

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I don't understand the first two. Obviously OP is not talking about one, so I don't see why you brought it up.

Secondly, number 2 can be done in a normals game.

Number 3 at makes sense tho.

But Normals isn't a competitive environment, which is what he was getting at.

Even bronze - silver games are still more in line competitively than Normal queue.

dunder kill11 votes

Normals is more competitive than Flex

TempName548461 votes

i don't know how your normals are but when i go into normals everyone i play with and against are dia+, last time i played normals i had to lane against a challenger 500 lp playing one of their mains.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

opgg/screen or fake.

TempName548462 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/36ebbc91f30f506c713b1b7fc1920b95.png

everyone on both teams had previously been dia or above and this wasn't even draft just blind pick.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

seems like you're lucky... or its due to your server.

the few times where i play on normal game im against full silvers and maybe one plat with me or against.

TempName548461 votes

we play on the same server bruh, and this is ever normal game not "luck", normal games also have MMR so i'd just wager i have played more normals than you have and since its a smurf account i was trying hard in normal while leveling boosting the MMR.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

we play on the same server bruh

i play on EUW you play on EUNE.

normal games also have MMR so i'd just wager i have played more normals than you have

very likely

TempName548463 votes

i play on euw, this is a permabanned + disabled name level 15 account and no i don't know why i'm using this on the boards.

Subject 52 votes

{quoted}

  1. Just because someone gets fed doesnt mean they're a smurf
  2. It's to try out new things in a competitive environment
  3. To play w lower ranked friends = fun. Forcing those bronze level friends to play at a plat level is total crap so dropping to the lowest common denominator is much more reasonable

I'd just like to point out that,

-> 2: That is like Michael Jordan saying that he likes a good competition to try out new things. So he decides to join the Little Tigers basket ball team. (Ages 4 to Michael Jordan apparently.)

There is no competition between bronze / silver VS Platinum / Diamond. It'd be like me saying I like to play bots for a good competition to try out new things. In reality, there is no competition for that skill level, it's only practicing mechanics.

Or in other words, something that you can do without being a dick head and smurfing to stomp people out.

GhostOfTsushima15 votes

It's only fun when the smurf is on your side LMAO right?

GripaAviara10 votes

Obviously no one is going to complain having a solid teammate, but when the skill difference is huge and he blasts through enemy team like butter it's not really fun

DemainaNyx7 votes

Every smurf on my team throws the game for us because he's all "I'm a god, watch me 1v5" before he dies right as Baron is coming up.

That or they are all, "IDC, this is my smurf so go ahead and report me, I'm gonna AFK."

ShaolinToilet3 votes

Those aren't smurfs

Baron Barian14 votes

Some people can only have fun if they win, and those kinds of people will not hesitate to ruin other's fun for their own. A clear breach of the summoner's code.

Iamgeyer13 votes

I mean if you're genuinely asking this i'll give you a list

  1. Learning new champions while not getting shitstomped(people play troll champions in normals, so you don't really learn your powerspikes)
  2. Playing off roles
  3. Playing with friends
  4. Playing when extremely tired
  5. Playing on a new account with the intent to rank up to the same rank as your main for various reasons
Bârd10 votes

You get to play with your low-skill friends.

T4underbolt4 votes

Wow. Great excuse to ruin the ranked game and ladder. This is more of "I actually want to boost my friend and I don't care that he will ruin the games for many people because he has not enough skill to play on the level I'm gonna boost him to"

Bârd4 votes

Didn't say it was fine.

I said that was the reason.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

it ruin nothing. If you stuck silvers or golds its not due to x potential smurfs.

T4underbolt3 votes

It ruins every game because peopel who are not supposed to play in certain elo are changing the tides of games completely. Amount of smurfs playing in games is very high. Especially due to sht state of the game that screws solo carrying, people create smurfs to have fun stomping 1v9.

TicklishSyphilis2 votes

Idk about that, I had a friend complaining to me about his rank being b5 played with him till he was silver 2, told him he was on his own and he got himself to gold. Point is that in most cases when people play with their low tier friends they don't just play, they teach their friends along the way. Doesn't take much to get to gold with all those free wins nowadays

Total Eclipse9 votes

IMHO, the biggest problem is when smurfs give up in rank bc they deem somebody "unworthy of the LP". There will usually be 2-3 other GOOD players trying their hearts out, but the smurf will baaaaasically int bc they dont care about the outcome of the game like people on their mains do.

Fun fact, there is a system in place to put smurfs against other smurfs.

MY idea is that, allow smurfs to exist in LOWER elo only, bc people CAN buy higher rank accounts and do poorly. And, mark them as smurfs, visible to all in game. And always have a matched number of smurfs.

Smurfs ruin games, at all ELOs.

5050BS8 votes

Smurfs Ruin Rank and should be a bannable offence.

Kàtárìnã7 votes

also, smurfing depends on the kind of person too. alot of people make accounts to place them and climb again with a better track record or get out of the rut their main is stuck in. i made mine to just play one champion and get better at it. unfortunately their are losers who purposely throw games to keep an account in gold silver or even bronze elo when they can play at a much higher level. in that particular case i have to agree with you.

La Belle Sauvage2 votes

I'm low elo, so Smurf doesn't apply to me, but my second acct is for learning new champs and roles as well.

Morticianjohn5 votes

Even though I am silver, I made an account for when I'm teaching a friend or relative how to play that is at a much lower ELO. However, I do not make it a point not to smash every game because

a.) it artifically inflates the elo of my team mates by them winning games where they are playing terribly b.) it makes both teams feel bad and while it may be fun for me, most of the other players aren't having fun

Ultimately, I don't let my play be the determining factor between winning and losing.

I see so many smurfs (or account sharing) showing off to impress their sibling or relative or GF or whatever. They go 22/3/8 every game and it's super unfun for the other 9 players. It isn't good for the game.

Vonyalo5 votes

I hate smurfs... game is already stomp fiesta and getting stomped by 80% winrate dude is extremely frustrating. Fck them.

Nut on my Butt4 votes

I made a smurf for learning jungle which was an area I was extremely weak in, and I can say it was quite a success as it went from my worst role to my second best. I'd be lying if I said the stomps along the way weren't fun tho x:

MasterDClone3 votes

i do it to de-stress and to play other champions in ranked without it affecting my rank. As a shaco OTP playing anyone else will kill my mmr and my rank very fast, so i made a smurf to play other champs and roles.

Mambu3 votes

The thing is, is that smurfing SHOULD happen. Having a smurf account helps to de-stress from the game on an account that isn't your main, you can practice uncomfortable things in ranked, you can play with your lower elo friends, and it brings more money for riot in general.

For the people complaining that it creates an uneven playing field and it makes for a really unfun experience, I'd say you really aren't trying to improve then. Think of a smurf playing in your game as a test to your skill as a player. And if you end up feeding to him? So what! Download that match, watch the replay, see what you can gather from it and LEARN! That's the way these smurfs rose to the top and came to understand the game. If you only have bad players playing against bad players all the time and mindlessly bashing their faces into the keyboard to MAYBE come out on top, do you really think that any of those players are going to be seriously improving? Pressure creates Diamonds.

And before I get a ton of messages, let me clarify some things. Yes, I understand that it can be frustrating to play against a smurf when you don't have as much game knowledge as them, and getting blown out of the water is super unfun if you don't understand why it is that you're losing or w/e. Regardless of if they are on your team or not, It's only for a small percent of your games that you actually encounter a smurf. As diamond players, we are like the top 1% of all players in north america, and In the world, It should be an even smaller percentage. We've all been at that level before, and we know how it feels. You gotta rise above the normies.

tl;dr smurfing is good, it is okay for the game, and you should take as much as you can from these games win or lose because they should statistically not happen as often, and don't bash on smurfs just because u bad, everyone started somewhere :P

Neptunia xoxo2 votes

It's fun because I get to play with friends and play random troll champions with troll builds and dominate people with it. Almost everyone smurfs it's nothing new.

5050BS5 votes

Oh so you are a Booster. If you are playing with Friends outside your Rank its called boosting. You are a Cheater.

Playing with Friends out side your rank is what normals are for.

Aseraan4 votes

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Oh so you are a Booster. If you are playing with Friends outside your Rank its called boosting. You are a Cheater.

Playing with Friends out side your rank is what normals are for.

Why is this so hard to understand for some ppl i dont get it.......

La Belle Sauvage3 votes

That doesn't make it right though, the everybody does it argument is laughable.

Neptunia xoxo1 votes

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That doesn't make it right though, the everybody does it argument is laughable.

Tbh I really don't care if you think it's right or not. If I or someone else enjoys doing it then I don't see the problem. Even when I queue on a smurf I rarely encounter another smurf until I reach something like high Plat or Diamond.

La Belle Sauvage2 votes

I don't think it is I know it is, but your point is fair and I don't expect you to care what I think. Yet the gaming community at large accepted the whole smurfing idea a long time ago. And I’m okay with it, when there isn’t anything on the line (gaming wise) like IP points, or climbing a ladder. Then I take issue with it.

However, you don’t end it there. Instead you continue to argue as if you do care what part of this community thinks in regards to Smurfing.

First point (in my humble opinion) against you: "TBH" I realize not many people think about this phrase much, but the implication is you are indicating to yourself and the person you utter this to "Normally I'm dishonest, but this time, I am being honest" which sets off my bullshit indicator.

Next, the premise of your argument to me is a weak justification of your behavior despite you indicating you don't care. Not only do you present a weak argument (if it feels good I'm going to do it) you contradict yourself a little by claiming you don't care but the try to explain anyway.

If you are going to Smurf own it!

"I like no competition, so I Smurf to make myself feel better at the cost of the integrity of ELO I smurf in and I don't care if it hampers or even ruins others experience.”

The only point I’d be willing to concede is learning a new champ and lane, but even that’s questionable and a different discussion too. But don't put forth a bullshit execute that “it feels good.”

This is a drastic comparison, but I'm being absurd to prove a point, by your logic, if murderer claims it feels good does it make it right? No of course not.

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