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A majority of the League community appears to hate female players.

Zyrannosaurus··8 votes·5,136 views

This occurs in-game, and on the forums. If you even have the slightest hint of femininity in your name, you're immediately scrutinized. If someone finds out you're a female -- you're now an "E-girl" If you're a female that mains support -- you were "carried" to whatever rank you currently are.

I had a much more girly summoner name, and ended up paying for a name change because of the harassment.

I get told that females don't belong in league, to get back in the kitchen, I'm a stupid E-girl at least 5 games a week.

It's gotten to the point where I don't even want to socialize in this game anymore.

This needs to stop. Why do you men feel this way? I honestly want an answer. Are you upset that we share the same hobby? Does it intimidate you that a female could be the same, or better than you at a game?

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Hammermancer11 votes

I'm calling you out on your shit

I play with multiple wammenz

they have names that have words like "Pretty" in them

Also there are plenty of people who I play with who have names that are more or less explicit on their sexual orientation

None of these people get any flak for these things

I have a theory... are you stating in allchat that you're a chick and people are just using that to annoy you because for whatever reason you're inviting the negative attitude?

Report Is 4 Kids1 votes

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Hammermancer1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Report Is 4 Kids,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-01-13T18:15:53.501+0000)

the fact that you call them "wammenz" is literally the most cringe and pathetic thing ive seen in months

It was likely a joke

Go back to facebook for your lowbrow shitty political arguments and stop necroing 9 month old downvoted threads

ModThe Djinn10 votes

Unfortunately, while I don't believe this group is a majority of the playerbase at all, they are a very vocal minority, and I definitely believe that that level of vocalization can feel like the same thing as a majority. I definitely agree that it needs to stop, although I'm afraid I can't do more than guess at the motivations of the individuals who engage in this behavior. :(

Frickface10 votes

As a girl, and a support main... Yeah no. If you're getting this kind of behavior commonly, you're doing something to provoke it. Probably something along the lines of what "T3H UB3RN07" said. No one actually cares that you're a girl. I get some shitty "lol ur a girl playing support" once every few months at most... And I just laugh and mute/report the guy. Also... you're not even ranked, and have never been ranked. Maybe don't go into games announcing you're a girl, or trying to get attention for it.

remakoro4 votes

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Zyrannosaurus2 votes

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Example #2

Xidphel5 votes

You're gonna find a twig and use it as evidence.

Zyrannosaurus1 votes

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As a girl, and a support main... Yeah no. If you're getting this kind of behavior commonly, you're doing something to provoke it. Probably something along the lines of what "T3H UB3RN07" said. No one actually cares that you're a girl. I get some shitty "lol ur a girl playing support" once every few months at most... And I just laugh and mute/report the guy. Also... you're not even ranked, and have never been ranked. Maybe don't go into games announcing you're a girl, or trying to get attention for it.

This isn't my main account. I don't go asking for it, you're name has zero hint of femininity in it -- I would never in a million years think you were a female irl. You missed my entire point completely.

Oleandervine4 votes

My name does have femininity in it - it's got the name of a flower, which apparently is also part of the title of some mother/daughter novel (and movie) that Oprah gave her stamp of approval to. I don't get ANY flak nor has anyone ever implied I'm a female because of it - which is fine, because I'm not a female. I've played the game for 4 years with this name, and used it online for about 10+ years, and not once has anyone made any kind of remark about my name and assumed I was a girl because of it.

KennysDreamGirl7 votes

its called online trolls lul

get used to it

EvilDustMan11 votes

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its called online trolls lul

get used to it

No one should get used to it.

Hammermancer6 votes

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No one should get used to it.

I call bullshit, you can't stop people from trolling, all you can do is get a thick skin or /mute

EvilDustMan3 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-05-03T18:04:38.873+0000)

I call bullshit, you can't stop people from trolling, all you can do is get a thick skin or /mute

Ban them. Teach them it's wrong.

Hammermancer5 votes

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Ban them. Teach them it's wrong.

this is what I'm more or less certain i just read "YOU DON'T ADHERE TO MY BULLSHIT IDEOLOGY SO I WANT YOU PURGED!!!1!!!"

Yup

Good work Inquisitor

EvilDustMan4 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T18:34:26.440+0000)

this is what I'm more or less certain i just read "YOU DON'T ADHERE TO MY BULLSHIT IDEOLOGY SO I WANT YOU PURGED!!!1!!!"

Yup

Good work Inquisitor

  1. redeemer.

  2. annoying assholes can be purged from video games without me losing sleep

Hammermancer4 votes

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  1. redeemer.

  2. annoying assholes can be purged from video games without me losing sleep

I'd rather have all the censors kicked out, they ruin the game by thought policing everyone and making us have an uncomfortable place to relax and enjoy our favorite video game. That way as a community we could address the issues of toxicity just by treating people how they act instead of selfishly removing someone from the game they likely spent skin money on because of their crime of having a differing perspective

Seriously anyone who thinks its okay to cull people is a bad person

The Hook Warden3 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T19:06:23.009+0000)

I'd rather have all the censors kicked out, they ruin the game by thought policing everyone and making us have an uncomfortable place to relax and enjoy our favorite video game. That way as a community we could address the issues of toxicity just by treating people how they act instead of selfishly removing someone from the game they likely spent skin money on because of their crime of having a differing perspective

Seriously anyone who thinks its okay to cull people is a bad person

You, sir, have it right. This account got banned after having no prior offenses (except a chat restriction like 4 years ago) because I used "hate speech" in the heat of the moment. Not saying it was right for me to do so, but I'd rather get called an ass for it by the community than take an account I've put 5 years' time and money into away. And there isn't even an appeals process for reforming

EvilDustMan2 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T19:06:23.009+0000)

I'd rather have all the censors kicked out, they ruin the game by thought policing everyone and making us have an uncomfortable place to relax and enjoy our favorite video game. That way as a community we could address the issues of toxicity just by treating people how they act instead of selfishly removing someone from the game they likely spent skin money on because of their crime of having a differing perspective

Seriously anyone who thinks its okay to cull people is a bad person

That didn't really work. Or for Heroes of the Storm. Or Overwatch. If you insult someone who insults you, it doesn't make them suddenly realize they are being an annoying asshole.

Hammermancer1 votes

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That didn't really work. Or for Heroes of the Storm. Or Overwatch. If you insult someone who insults you, it doesn't make them suddenly realize they are being an annoying asshole.

Actually it's not about insulting people, it's about treating them how they act... which is like immature jackasses (IE just ignore) or trolls trying to have a laugh (IE just understand they're coming from a lighthearted place and keep it light hearted)

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=000100000001000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-05T14:15:28.373+0000)

Actually it's not about insulting people, it's about treating them how they act... which is like immature jackasses (IE just ignore) or trolls trying to have a laugh (IE just understand they're coming from a lighthearted place and keep it light hearted)

Right. So we ignore immature jackasses. What's wrong with giving them a 10 game chat restriction to reinforce that being an immature jackass isn't well liked?

EvilDustMan2 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T19:06:23.009+0000)

I'd rather have all the censors kicked out, they ruin the game by thought policing everyone and making us have an uncomfortable place to relax and enjoy our favorite video game. That way as a community we could address the issues of toxicity just by treating people how they act instead of selfishly removing someone from the game they likely spent skin money on because of their crime of having a differing perspective

Seriously anyone who thinks its okay to cull people is a bad person

Me re: annoying assholes

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16418931/images/1316953368373.jpg

Report Is 4 Kids1 votes

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SEKAI2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Report Is 4 Kids,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-13T18:18:57.750+0000)

the only "annoying assholes" in video games are the trash players ruining the game for others daily, then crying about words on a screen

Why are you spamming replies in a 9 months old thread?

I don't think you can even find this thread outside of specifically looking for it via browser. So you literally go out of your way to find some old shit to go on outrage about... and you're calling others "weak".

RagingDerpness3 votes

[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-05-03T18:04:38.873+0000)

I call bullshit, you can't stop people from trolling, all you can do is get a thick skin or /mute

. . . Who hurt you?

Hammermancer1 votes

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. . . Who hurt you?

It's called common sense, I've been on the internet since 1994 and the themes have been the same, I know what trolling actually is, I know that what modern definitions attempt to shift it to mean.

The fact is that the harder you moderate the more trolls you get, because the nature of trolling is to get a rise out of people for the lulz. Therefore, logically if you are all proclaiming a safe space that is a beacon for trolls to feed.

So if you keep moderating harder then it logically goes until you get to a point where there is no open chat, such as premade chat messages, at which point the social aspect is dead.

The other option is simple, demoderate all non-illegal chat by definition of location of the server, this means threats and spreading of illegal content, such as pirated materials or the spread of confidential information (Like someone telling people your mom's credit card), or of course things that victimize children in some way, would obviously not only be bannable, but also reportable to authorities.

ModPrandine7 votes

Yeah, no, I highly doubt you're telling us the whole story here. While I agree that cyber-bullying needs to stop, people won't know you're a girl if you don't go out of your way to tell them so. Also, did you ever stop to think that maybe it's your attitude that's inviting rage and flame your way rather than your gender or name? Let's look at your first post in this thread alone:

The downvote only proves my point further. Thank you.

You assume that the people who are downvoting you are female haters. This is a bad attitude to have and assumes the worst out of people just because they disagree with you.

Bottom Line: If you want to have a civil conversation then you need to make an effort to do so rather than just immediately assuming that anyone who disagrees with you or downvotes you is an "insert cop-out reason here". It has nothing to do with your gender or name or whatever, it's about having a mature and respectful attitude when interacting with others. If your first response to disagreement is to lash out at others then it's only natural that people don't treat you with the respect that they might do otherwise.

Xidphel4 votes

A majority of the League community appears to hate female players.

Yeah. It's the majority you've personally encountered.

Kaioko4 votes

How do people even find out you're a girl in the first place? Unless you're sharing that information in game they would have no way to know. I personally don't nor do I see the point of it. I'm playing with a team and I don't care if they are males or females.

Honestly half the girls in this game do give a bad rep to the rest of us -- I had one just last night that was complaining her boyfriend wasn't buying her a better computer and another that said she got to the rank she was in (diamond) because her boyfriend helped her increase her rank. They both have one thing in common though -- we found out that they were girls just because they were trying to be little attention whores which none of us cared.

Infernape4 votes

Please. Generalise men more. It totally doesn't come across as hypocritical.

Zyrannosaurus3 votes

The downvote only proves my point further. Thank you.

Xidphel8 votes

So the fact that they disagree is proof that you're right. Not sure how that works but ok.

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

Insecure people assume everyone else is as angry as they are.

Angry people tend to project.

People who project assume everyone who is as mad as they are is also mad because they are wrong.

Scuttle2 votes

I'm a girl and I only agree a bit.

You should be allowed to have a girly summoner name without fear of being harassed in-game about it. I had one girly summoner name and changed it after 1-2 months because I preferred if people didn't know I was a girl. I didn't get too much flak for it, but I was sick of people adding me just because of my name.

But if your summoner name is something like yours or mine, how are people even finding out? You never have to even hint you're a girl. Just play the game.

Hexs Fortune2 votes

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I'm a girl and I only agree a bit.

You should be allowed to have a girly summoner name without fear of being harassed in-game about it. I had one girly summoner name and changed it after 1-2 months because I preferred if people didn't know I was a girl. I didn't get too much flak for it, but I was sick of people adding me just because of my name.

But if your summoner name is something like yours or mine, how are people even finding out? You never have to even hint you're a girl. Just play the game.

It's a real shame. A few loud trolls and alot of silent enablers

FOR JUSTICE3 votes

To be fair, trolls are going to troll.

If they see something they can insult you with, then you should expect them to use it. Thats just how they work.

Also youre generalizing the playerbase, most dont give a crap. unless you put some kind of femininity in a name, they wont actually know your female. Adding to that point, youre name doesnt appear to be even slightly feminine at first glance, so the only way they could have known is if you explicitly stated it.

Its also possible its just a random insult. Sometimes people just call the autofilled janna a boosted egirl just because.

remakoro3 votes

Actually. Im pretty sure OP is trolling -_-

Scuttle2 votes

It kinda reads like one of those guys who only say "feeemales."

I cringe whenever people use that word to refer to women/girls in context where it's not needed.

Why does "she" use female to refer to women but calls men, men? Idk, could be wrong. Maybe she's just bad at writing.

The Hook Warden3 votes

I personally don't think that his happens all too often/it's in any serious way. What does it matter if someone calls you an e-girl or say that you got carried; people are always going to look for ways to insult you when they're salty at, well, anything. If you're a support, "you got carried stfu", if you're Yasuo, "I stomped you in lane you're no Yassuo/Faker/etc." No matter what people are going to be toxic, win or lose, and a feminine name/feminine attitude if just one more way for the toxic people to express it. Don't act like this is some "all men" issue like your original post alludes to lol. That feminist rhetoric is so bullshit it's amazing that it's still around since it takes just a little bit of thinking to look past that surface thought and see the issue that's at play. [sg-miss-fortune]

P4ppino3 votes

What a sexist post, damn.

LateCustomer3 votes

As far as I know from talking to the women I play, they don't get any more or less flak than the men I play with. When they ARE harassed, gender comes up if the harasser guesses they're women, and while I agree that it's wrong, it seems like it's only used because the harasser thinks it'll get a rise out of the victim.

I'm not gonna say, "get used to it", it's bad behavior that needs to be adressed, but I disagree that "the majority" hates women in league, it's a vocal minority that would have targeted you for being a given religion/ethnicity/sexual orientation/breathing.

JCPANDIT3 votes

Okay girl, let me start off with, I completely agree that people shouldn’t be using gender as an insult. A negative stereotype about “gamer girls” definitely exists. And it’s a stereotype that’s been reinforced by a handful of females over the years. These females aren’t representative of a majority of the female gaming population, but unfortunately they’ve made an impression, so yes there’ll be some d-bags in games who will roast you for your gender.

Most guys, however, do not give a fuck about your gender. Yeah, sexism and whatever exists online. But it’s not the majority. You’re focusing on a few negative instances, whilst completely ignoring the times where nobody has said anything about your supposedly feminine name.

In fact, most people online will just assume you’re a guy, anyways. I can’t help but get the feeling - and maybe I’m incorrect - that you’re calling attention to your gender. I’m often misgendered, but I won’t correct someone unless they’re repetitively referring to me as “he” and it’s starting to feel weird. Other than that, it doesn’t matter what my gender is. I’m there to play. If you choose to draw attention to your gender, then anticipate positive, neutral, and negative responses.

Furthermore, if you’re gonna get upset about people making jokes about females playing support, maybe don’t feed into the support stereotype. Or play a support champ that’s commonly respected, like Thresh or Braum. Soraka/Sona/Nami are more often perceived as the “easy” supports that are favoured by girls. I have no clue what champs you actually play, but it’s just an idea.

Nevurwin2 votes

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This occurs in-game, and on the forums. If you even have the slightest hint of femininity in your name, you're immediately scrutinized.

If you're a female that mains support -- you were "carried" to whatever rank you currently are.

This needs to stop. Why do you men feel this way? I honestly want an answer. Are you upset that we share the same hobby? Does it intimidate you that a female could be the same, or better than you at a game?

  1. I hardly ever see women get scrutinized in this game... it happens a lot more in games that have open comms, where people actually hear you. ie Overwatch, PUBG (pre-game lobby)

  2. Theres a big generalization that women are support mains. It doesnt have to be a "bad" thing. Its just a generalization, and well... the majority do main support. If you dont like it, stop adding to the sterotype, go to a solo lane and destroy them.

  3. "men" dont feel this way, 13 year old little boys that dont have respect feel this way.

Silent Gravity2 votes

When people hate themselves, they take it out on any available target.

When someone decides that I'm female, guys tend to try to give me stuff so that I'll like them and gals express relief that they can relax. But, those experiences have been in MMOs, like WoW and LotRO. As far as I know, no one has expressed an opinion on my gender while playing League.

jocomotion2 votes

This needs to stop. Why do you men feel this way? I honestly want an answer. Are you upset that we share the same hobby? Does it intimidate you that a female could be the same, or better than you at a game?

Please don’t group all guys together when you’re only talking about the minority, it’s pretty rude.

I personally only know two girls who play league regularly, I’ve never called them e-girls, nor have any of my friends (or if they have I’ve never been around to see it). They play well and we just kinda have fun. Maybe it’s you?

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