Conqueror Yi.

Xiniseid·4/16/2018, 12:40:59 AM·2 votes·892 views

This actually needs to be looked at lol. I'm getting tired of seeing Yi's build item 1419 and item 3124 and then proceed to just backhand everyone in the game with a metric fuck ton of true damage. Keep in mind these are the only two damage items I'll see most Yi's building (save for item 3139) before building rest tank.

The amount of true damage Yi does with this rune is actually unreal. And before "BUH JUST CC HIM!" that doesn't excuse the amount of true damage he does.

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53014/16/2018, 3:06:25 AM2 votes

I have a problem with complaining about Yi's damage. Sure in theory he out DPSes Xayah, bursts faster than Kai'Sa and snowballs faster than Draven but that doesn't really mean anything in practice. Currently the only thing Yi does is damage. That damage does not come alive until it's too late unless Yi is allowed to jack off for 20 minutes. That's literally the only thing he contributes to a team and that's the only thing he has in his kit aside from his few defensive steroids. And those can't be changed because that would make his kit even more unplayable than it is now.

I responded to another thread about Yi's damage with a similar response. The takeaway from this is that you should understand that Yi still functions like a Shyvana, takes way too long to ramp and simply cannot compete in the current jungle meta.

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To be fair if he is able to even get to that point of the game without being significantly behind, he deserves to have damage, since that's the only thing he has. Keep in mind that the S tier junglers have cheaper builds, faster powerspikes and are as a whole more useful

He still has the same problems. His pre 6 isn't that impressive, therefore he gives up the ability to be proactive to all of the tier 1, 2 and even other 3 junglers. His post 6 is huge, but at the same time it isn't great. Yi's ganks are Shyvana-tier pre 6 and post 6, so trying to gain tempo is pointless since it's so difficult to gain as Yi. He's just so predictable, low ranged and doesn't have any CC, and you don't even need to ward against him if you have a rough idea of where he is. Tracking doesn't have to be exact against Yi like it does someone like Kha'Zix and Shaco since Yi is so useless. The current nerfed iteration of his ult has a short duration and doesn't feel that great at all for the Yi player if him and his team can't kill anything quickly enough for him to get a reset. He has to prep rageblade, conqueror and will usually have to look for a good opening to go in, unless both teams are just running away from their ADs and mages and into the enemy team. Also, if he gets behind he's not really getting back into the game, unless someone else enables him to (which is not uncommon in a solo queue environment, but hey if a team lets that happen with a Yi, they deserved to lose anyways)

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree, I'm just saying that Yi still isn't reliable. There really is no effective way to itemize against on-hit Yi and he shreds everything, from squishy mages and ADs to the most durable bruisers and tanks but he still isn't consistent.

Currently, Yi's winrate isn't looking so impressive. According to my sources, Yi isn't tier 1 or anything.

http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/ if you filter the statistics to diamond, Yi has a 49.71% winrate with about 3000 games. Compared to other junglers, that's not impressive. The jungle god Kha'Zix has a 53% winrate with double the games. The Korean pocket pick Camille has a 53% winrate with triple Yi's. Even Lee Sin has over a 50% winrate with double Yi's games. Olaf and Xin have nutty winrates too with more pickrate than Yi. J4, Sej and Zac all have a winrate like Yi's but they have a far larger sample size as well. https://lolalytics.com/ranked/kr/platinum/plus/detailed/ the following is another winrate website. Yi still is underperforming. Most junglers that are tier 1 and 2 in Korea and tier 1 and 2 in less competitive regions all have a higher winrate (see: Rek, Xin, Eve, Shaco, WW, Trundle, Kha, Jax, etc) and are all better than Yi. The same website is telling me that seasoned Rek, Kha and Camille players have about a 60% winrate with them.

Winrate obviously isn't everything, but it tells me that Yi is still not easy to pull off. Yeah Yi does a lot of damage, but if he can't win games effectively, then that means that in the bigger picture his damage is not so problematic. His kit still has problems that allow Riot to justify the current (and miserable) state of Yi.