Nerfing his shield hard early game, why?
He's not crowding out other tank picks He basically has no passive, because it only works if he dies, which you're never supposed to do, as anyone. Sion's finally fitting in with his tank buddies and he needs a nerf? Not to mention he's a full tank 90% of the time, and is useless around the 20 minute mark unless his team is there to follow up on his crowd control.
Variks the Loyal7 votesI agree. Sion is in a good spot, doesn't really need a nerf.
At best, maybe he needs nerfs on the base damage of his shield and roar.
Zeraphicus1 votesYeah its too bad, Sejuani is still better and more oppressive. I'm sick of seeing her every game. She's better but just so boring to play. Sion feels like he should get super strong late game, but in solo q, I have literally a 0 win rate after 40 minutes on him. but whatever, more games playing against sejuani the skilless.
JedenVojak1 votesHey, Sejuani is not skilless. She's pretty fun actually, you should try her.
But seriously more Sion nerfs why? Because he was played mid? Like really?
Variks the Loyal2 votesSejuani is fine. This is a discussion about Sion, not Sejuani.
If you have a 0% win rate on Sion, you're doing something wrong. The 40 minute mark is where I shine on him, because THEY CAN'T EVEN SCRATCH ME!
killd0zer1 votesLol no Sejuani is the best champ in the game atm lol.
Migrañaboy1 votesShe´s not OP but easy and has been so since pre-cinderhulk introduction. But people didn't dare to use her until that item came. She basically throws an amumu and has an interrupt and slow.
In other news, china tops pick second smite and rush cinderhulk enchantment instead of sunfire. Not related but would expect 4 nerfs to the jungle item or buffs to the sunfire?
Immortal Strife7 votesSion has been nerfed repeadily of late so much so that the current PBE nerf does seem like overkill. Leave the zombie alone, he's fine as is.
Xela Syab6 votesHes just oppressive early game, he scales well into late game, has high base damage, you have to deal with him after he's dead so you can't focus him in fights, he has knockup stun and ranged slow, he has no weak part of his lane phase, he's hard to gank because of his trading. That said he's countered by volibear and other tanky duelist with really high sustain.
Sailor Mint4 votesYou might want to watch competitive play.
Synx72 votesYea almost forgot that riot balances around LC$. Fuck the 99% of the community. PBE is worthless
qetzel2 votesNah. It is understandable that you see that Riot balances around competitive play because strong competitive picks normally get nerfed. However, what is strong in competitive play is often strong in Diamond and Platinum. If you didn't watch competitive play but instead watched high ELO streamers you would be forgiven for thinking that they balanced around Diamond.
Why is balancing for competitive play bad? Pro picks often filter down into regular play. When a champion is picked in competitive play there is always a play spike in normal and ranked games. When these champions lack meaningful counterplay (support Veigar) or lack interaction (Soloraka throughout the game) or are just consistently stronger than most picks at every point in the game (Sion) they become a problem in normal play.
Finally, people who say that Riot only balances around the LCS forget, for example, the Katarina nerfs and the Fiora nerfs, both before either was played in a competitive setting. There are many more examples than that. They don't.
Brotha6 votes[{quoted}](name=Worst Mid Ever,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yKA3R7wp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-04-11T23:30:31.113+0000)
Banner of Command OP
Pls nerf
Migrañaboy1 votesSeems that these promoted cannons were good only when they got the baron buffs though.
How about if promotion gave these a little range too?
BakedLotion3 votesBecause he's oppressive to play against at any point in the game. He's impossible to out-trade and lategame is literally unkillable
Mooing Kev2 votesHis E nerfs were justified. I would just max e and do 210x1.5 damage costing only 35 mana at a 8 sec base cd. The changes now mean maxing q first for most match ups unless you're up against a ranged. His W nerf is eh, it hurts his early game but his late game monstrosity is untouched.
PerishSoftly2 votesI think the Sion W nerf is Riot's way of saying "We REALLY don't want people maxing E until last"
If you give up Q, then a big chunk of CC-damage is gone. If you give up W now, you have a substantially weaker shield. If you give up E, your laning is less powerful.
Meaningful choices?
Venowolf2 votesThis new nerf its obviusly that its oriented to jungle Sion and in some part its a "fair" nerf
Sion win rate in top lane its 53.32% and Sion jungle is 56.24% (The second champ with more high win ration only besides Nunu) So its clearly a difference, and this nerf put him more troubles on early pressure and clear time in the jungle. Nunu is another champ that need some nerfs because his objetive control its abysmal.
NYAAA Stones UwU1 voteswhy nerf sion that is a gopod champ but not OP, i ean riot wake up nerf 
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OxBaker1 votesWell, he was fun but I just can't justify picking him any more after this last nerf goes through. There are already better choice to fill his tank role. Really don't see why to pick him after they hit his shield that hard.
