What One Change/Addition/Removal You Want From the Preseason?

Frosted Tips·8/12/2019, 3:54:17 PM·3 votes·2,193 views

I think this is a really hard decision to cut down to one on, but I will try.

Option 1: AP Fighter penetration item somewhat similar to Black Cleaver. AP Fighters have a tough time being balanced because of the lack of good itemization they have. I think they need more than one item, but a penetration item like Black Cleaver would help drastically.

Option 2: Teleport. Either the removal or changing of Teleport from a summoner to a purchasable item. Teleport offers way too much currently and that is why we see consistently in pro games 3 players per team taking it.

Option 3: Fixing the jungle. Camps are down for far too long making the only option for junglers to Gank meaning that we have this nonstop fighting meta. It is getting old and the difference between a good and decent jungler is far more impactful on the game than the a minor difference between any other role. Junglers don't usually win the game, but lose the game.

Option 4: Removal of Stopwatch. No more is needed to be said about this trash item.

This is a really hard choice for me, but I think I would go with Option 1. This is because without a change to the itemization AP Fighters will always have issues. Either with having overly compensated kits to deal with the itemization problems or just being countered by 1 MR item.

I would like to hear what others think. Let me know what you would want changed if you could choose one thing.

17 Comments

Lauchmelder8/12/2019, 3:59:59 PM4 votes

I'd like an AP item rework.

We should get the choice of going AP, CDR or a mix between the two. Getting 40% CDR shouldn't happen as a side product, it should be a choice you have to make.

If you want more CDR you get less damage on individual spells but more uptime, while going the AP route allows your skills to hit harder with more downtime inbetween.

FSRER8/12/2019, 6:50:50 PM3 votes

I want fun added back into the game

Phieldworker8/12/2019, 3:59:10 PM3 votes

Ap bruiser items would be nice. I don’t know if that’ll be specifically for melee champs only or more for ap champs that build health/ap items. Plus I’m still convenced I can make ap bruiser Sylas work lol

Death by Glamour8/12/2019, 4:01:03 PM3 votes

For riot to actually attempt to balance during preseason rather than letting all the broken shit remain at the start of the new ranked season.

Ventira8/12/2019, 7:40:37 PM2 votes

I'd like for support to be a proper role again. Tired of Pyke and full-ap "support" nonsense.

Très Pauvre8/12/2019, 4:20:49 PM2 votes

SkillCappedtoChallenger did a video on the state of the JG and it was really really good. The jungle right now is ridiculously screwed to force hyper gank styles of jungling as well as the extremely likely situation of vertical jungling which just once again isolates lanes and removes agency from laners. The graph they used in the video is perfect in how it details game agency from a jungler and laner perspective.

In this meta, Junglers carry laners early, then hope that the lead they gave them will allow that laner to carry the game. This means that neither person feels they can have consistent impact over the entirety of the game due to each phase being reliant on another person.

If you're a laner and get camped, you just hope you didn't give away too much and your jungler was able to secure a better lead for your team on the opposite side of the map because its probably been split into vertical jungling. Especially so because the jungler probably had such high presence you can't even play the lane.

If you're the jungler you secure a lead for a lane and then hope they are good enough to carry through for a win because you're almost certainly gonna fall off.

Every Jungle guide I've seen pretty much advocates clear red side (because red side is INSANELY imbalanced in the rewards you get per clear as opposed to blue) and gank the nearest lane, repeatedly. Then screw clearing just soak up that minion xp because you get more in like 5 shared lane minions than you do for the entire blue side first clear so whats the point. Invade for a camp come back and gank, maps split into vertical and now that one lane is essentially 2v1 or 3v2. Whichever jungler provides the best lead and has the best laner(s) wins the game. Nobody feels like they had any true impact.

ProfDrDeath8/12/2019, 7:55:07 PM1 votes

Option 2: Teleport. Either the removal or changing of Teleport from a summoner to a purchasable item. Teleport offers way too much currently and that is why we see consistently in pro games 3 players per team taking it.

It is pretty much given that Riot is going to do something with Teleport come Preseason. I cannot imagine them being in the slightest content with the current situation.

ProfDrDeath8/12/2019, 8:06:08 PM1 votes

Probably crazy idea:

All champions are now limited to a maximum of 2 Crit items. Zeal Upgrades rebalanced to be in the 3000-3200 gold range.


The intent here is to limit the overall damage output of ADCs somewhat and incentivize/force them into more dedicated builds if they want to increase their damage output against tanks (item 3036 item 3153 ), squishies (item 3142 item 3072 ) or into utility and defense (item 3095 item 3139 ). Limiting Crit items to 2 also allows the individual items, especially the Zeal Upgrades, to be more powerful, as it prevents abusive triple combinations.

This would mostly affect ADCs, but not the two champions that build crit at higher levels (Tryndamere Yasuo ).

5050BS8/12/2019, 8:12:53 PM1 votes

Remove Autofill

Change Damage lowered all around

Addition More Utility AP/Tank/AD Items

The thigh guy8/12/2019, 8:23:33 PM1 votes

Make jungle playable again.

Or make turrets a actual threat again.

Hard to decide between the two tbh.

Posui Gart8/13/2019, 11:24:46 AM1 votes

Remove item 3157 's active(and rebalance whoever is affected) Remove Jungle role. Make it a 2-1-2, 1-1-3, remove 5th player entirely and make it a 4x4, replace it with "roaming support" role whatever. Rework another AA champion into a spell-based one Remove all random from tft