The Day Has Finally Come

Frosted Tips·Aug 28, 2018·61 votes·17,576 views

Janna stats - League of Legends

Janna's win rate graph finally shows below 50% what a day I honestly never thought I would live to see the day.

88 Comments

BLIGHTBRINGERAug 28, 201837 votes

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Me wondering where the Janna buffs are at, knowing that Riot wouldn't ever let Janna be below 50% WR LUL

######jk riot pls don't buff her

Frosted TipsAug 28, 20187 votes

I was thinking the same thing. I saear if she isn't back up to 54% in the preseason I will be beyond shocked. Maybe I will even by some RP and give the company money

JamareeAug 28, 201830 votes

Holy shit, it only took 9 years, nice.

R0XTARAug 28, 201821 votes

Nah, they'll buff her by 5 Movement Speed and call it a day ;)

#RitoGamez

Tenth LeperAug 29, 20188 votes

Hey man, I would love 5 more movespeed.

Sexy Jack RabbitAug 29, 20182 votes

You joke but that would actually effect multiple aspects of her kit probably leading to a substantial increase in winrate.

DuskDaUmbreonAug 28, 201821 votes

"Finally"

Ignoring that Janna's winrate has been like this for at least a couple months.

D357R0Y3RAug 28, 201817 votes

it's been like that for weeks now

HP CrookshanksAug 28, 201814 votes

That's sad because her kit is great for soloq and she's supposed to be a reliable pick. [sg-janna]

dunder killAug 29, 20189 votes

She still is lol. Being .2% below 50% doesnt mean she isnt good

Death by GlamourAug 28, 201812 votes

she is the most nerfed champ in this game despite the better nerf irelia meme

shows how strong assassins and engage supports are or how weak janna is depending on how you look at it

Frosted TipsAug 28, 201814 votes

No it shows you how unhealthy her kit is and that you can nerf her to the ground and she still finds a way to shine. I would love to hear a counter argument if you disagree.

ninjaroxasAug 29, 20183 votes

People don't like Janna because she doesn't let you 100-0 People.

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20182 votes

People don't like Janna because:

She has no true counters
She is almost always overtuned
She takes little to no skill
She is the #1 cock blocker

ninjaroxasAug 29, 20183 votes

A lot of champions have no true counters
How?
Because most people dont actually play around the fact there is a janna on the other team and the Janna doesn't have to actually think. She is a easy champ but people make her even easier to play by not playing around her
Like i said people don't like her because she stops you from 100-0 people

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

IDK who you are referring to could I get some example? Then I could respond more accurately.
She is never not good. No matter how bad enchanter supports are or items are she is always good. She is too easy to play and has super high play rates which should lower her win rate yet she always seems to have a high win rate as well.
There is no way to play around her. Her kit is too strong.
Yup I was agreeing that is a part of it.

ninjaroxasAug 29, 20181 votes

1 morg and azir are two off the top of my head, they have counters but no one truly counters them.

2 She is almost always good but that doesn't make her overturned

3 Dodge her Q and bait her E. Q is self explanatory. You can poke her down to bait the E out then engage. Her only form of sustain is her ult so poke in general is good against her.

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

Morg gets countered by hey magic damage like Karma. Azir gets countered by assassins in general.
Her kit is too good no matter her numbers no matter the meta she is good that is overtuned
How do you bait E and then engage? She just won't use it until you engage or play super safe after she uses it. And if you are playing a poke champion then she just has to shield whenever you poke because you can't engage. She can instant cast q and guarantee it lands unless you blink or flash.

ninjaroxasAug 29, 20181 votes

Still not true counters. Azir also fairs against assassins about as well as other classes. His top 10 counters are 5 mages 4 assassins 1 skirmishes.
It's not too good though. It's just good. She's pure utilty which will always be at least ok no matter what the meta
Her E has very long cd early on, I think like 16 seconds and she can only shield 1 target at a time. She shields her self? Go on the adc then. Later on you'll have a whole team to poke with. You can't dodge any point blank skill shot. Isn't unique to her.

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

So since he doesn't dominate vs any class yet losses to almost everyone no one counters him?
The utility is too good that is why when other utility champions suck she is still good.
Lol getting into range of Janna. That is laughable you will never be able to get a point blank skill shot on her because you can't get to her. Yes long cooldown early but then they just set back and take no risk. Also she has good lane damage now sense Riot decided she needed it with her mini gameplay update.

ninjaroxasAug 29, 20181 votes

He does dominate, but you actually have to be good with him
Other pure utility champs never suck either. Just because they arent crushing everyone doesn't mean they are bad
You said Janna can just quick cast her Q but to do that She has to be right in your face to do so. Any champion can sit back and play safe when they their abilities are on cd

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

Right there if you are actually good on him. It takes skill to not get destroyed that is my point. She has no counters and you don't need to be skilled to not get destroyed.
Yes they do have times of sucking.
Yes if somehow someone gets on top of you because you miss played you can quick cast Q, but she can harass you with talking damage because of her shield then sit back with Q ready and never be in any danger. That is no good design.

TormentulaAug 28, 20184 votes

Mostly because her mere concept of shield bot is something that is difficult to bring down no matter how many love taps you throw at her. You could probably delete parts of her kit and she'll still be playable. Wouldn't call her broken really (except in certain metas) but she's generally a hard to bring down champ due to her reliability.

Most nerfed champ? Azir Gnar Are constantly getting nerfhammered. Janna's nerfs hardly ever drop her viability.

Death by GlamourAug 29, 20186 votes

She is the most nerfed champ over the years, those two dont compare to gragas (went from midlane assasin to a tank) let alone janna...

I agree with what you say about her reliability, shes much the same as thresh in this regard. The two of them could do little to no damage but still be extremely usefull.

ViciousSummonerAug 29, 20186 votes

Nah, it's more veteran support players have finally left the game.

IDEMO NA MUDAAug 29, 20181 votes

Nah. We just prefer an actual support champion that needs some sort of brain functioning to play so we can have fun with it. Pressing E 24/7 on your ad and W to deal more damage than your adc on the enemy adc is not quite enjoyable, nor fun, nor interactive. We like Pyke, Rakan, Thresh, stuff that can make good outplays and some flashy plays. Janna, Sona, Nami here and there, let the lower elo have them. edit: let's not forget some cool bard ults and roams he can do.

NuparuAug 29, 20181 votes

"Flashy plays" is why Boards still complains about Duskblade being broken, because Assassins make "flashy plays."

IDEMO NA MUDAAug 30, 20181 votes

Yeah. That's why Zed is broken, right.

ViciousSummonerAug 29, 20181 votes

IMO Thresh got worse to play when item 3306 and item 3309 was removed from SR. I personally don't like Pyke too much just because of him being a more awkward Thresh. Rakan is okay to play every once in a while, but I'd much prefer to just play Alistar instead.

Janna just needed some number tweaks that was all. Riot for some reason was just unwilling to budge on them. Sona is one that I haven't played in a long while so I've nothing to say about her other than QQ. Nami is easy, but not that easy. You've gotta buy her dinner first.

IDEMO NA MUDAAug 30, 20181 votes

Personally, i just get aids when i see how drastically the gameplay changes when you play against someone like Lucian ( as thresh ) so you potentionally can hook him or predict his E so you hook him there, and then you have Jhin who no matter what a bloody MadLife you are with Thresh, you can't land a hook on a 750 movement speed per shot target. Add lulu and her W to ensure he is faster than Hecarim on steroids with ghost and predator, and you are good to go. Implementation of so many movement speed add-ons regardless if its a passive, a skill, a summoner spell ( which i actually don't mind cause it gives you a boost that actually need some acceleration like a car, like it should be ) or whatever else it might be ( drakes, items etc ). Having jhin going from 399 to 705 movement speed in a blink of an eye is stupid.

Jack GarrusAug 29, 20186 votes

what a sad day [sg-janna]

kargishAug 29, 20181 votes

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what a glorious day [sg-ahri-2]

FTFY

Jack GarrusAug 29, 20182 votes

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FTFY

NO [sg-ahri-1] I'm personally crying. My beautiful op main that helped me to escape from bronze [sg-janna]

Yara0Aug 29, 20184 votes

Jannas WR going low is a pretty bad sight for bot lane considering that she has the best support kit in the game for a carry Except something like Lulu in some cases which means carries are in a pretty bad state.

Rathar DashingAug 29, 20183 votes

It's like Boyhood it took 12 years to make

HungryAngry2SPPAug 29, 20183 votes

Too bad, 13 hours after this post she's already 50,2%

SugeMinPikkAug 29, 20182 votes

That's the first time in, what, 2 years? 3?

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20183 votes

At least 4.5 years

SunbreakerAug 29, 20182 votes

Pretty much every enchanters kit is the same so Janna being weak just means it's Nami, Lulu or Sona's time to have 53% winrate

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20182 votes

Implying an almost 50% winrate is weak

SunbreakerAug 29, 20186 votes

It is for a safe and extremely easy to play support who has kept a 52% winrate for years

Daddy AntsAug 29, 20183 votes

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Pretty much every enchanters kit is the same so Janna being weak just means it's Nami, Lulu or Sona's time to have 53% winrate

Nami's had a 53-54% win rate for a lot longer than a "few patches" though.

Earlier in the season Sona's win rate went as low as 46%

remakoroAug 29, 20182 votes

Day when league officially became shit. Congratulations. (janne having less than 50% winrate means that game is 100% shit)

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

I agree the game isn't great rn but this stat gives me hope why do you think it means it is shit?

remakoroAug 29, 20182 votes

If champion such as Janne isnt effective its good indication that things went waaaaaay too wrong.

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

If that is the case then Janna needs to be changed no champion should always be above average. Champions should fluctuate between being slightly above average and slightly below average.

Tychusfindlay918Aug 30, 20181 votes

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If champion such as Janne isnt effective its good indication that things went waaaaaay too wrong.

She got overnerfed, and that isn't waaaaaaayy too wrong, that's just a bandaid until her dumb ass kit gets reworked.

BlakiepugAug 30, 20182 votes

But what did it cost...? :(

Frosted TipsAug 30, 20181 votes

I like the joke but it was 100% worth the pain.

Athenes LuluAug 30, 20182 votes

not sure if this is actually a good thing or it's a bad thing because assassins are running over stuff so hard that not even janna can deal with them.