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Riven hate?

Cosmochris··6 votes·817 views

I used to main riven a while ago not anymore even though i still have fun playing her sometimes. I honestly don't know why everyone hates her so much she's actually one of the weakest top laners in league right now. Riven is extremely squishy and does almost no dmg anymore compared to how she was back then. I remember when I used to 1 shot the adc with just w auto hydra ult but now i need a full combo to kill them and the adc shreds me. She does have like 124253 dashes which i know can be frustrating but thats what makes her the hardest to play well too. A lot of people say she takes no skill well then why don't you try her out and compare yourself to people like box box or faker? She's actually the most useless champion in team fights too. I'm not asking for riven buffs or anything just wanted to respond to all the hate from the riven buffs coming out soon. Her buff honestly is still pretty useless as this doesn't change the fact that she's squishy, doesn't have damage compared to other top/mid laners and has to rely on her ult more. Well I main ADC now which is a lot more fun since its more mechanically demanding

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Mr Broken Wings4 votes

Its a meme to hate on her, and people who are new to the game get teached by salty silver players that she is "op no skill faceroll hehe xd". And its not really true that riven players are a lot more toxic, the thing is no matter what the riven player does in the end he is " the LOLOL toxic riven main xdxdxd". I asked a yi once at a game if he starts blue or red side and he flamed me for 20 minutes straight and called me a subhuman riven main and that I am toxic and should kill myself lol. Imagine you get flamed from your team AND the enemy team for picking a champion you enjoy ( from your team for picking an useless champion and the enemies call you a freeelo abuser), ofc you will get toxic if everyone is a bitch to you in everygame. This community is shit and needs something on which they can witchhunt on. If its not riven its yasuo, or vayne. People are just dumb, ignore them.

Penns3 votes

Most Riven mains I see are pretty nice actually. The only thing I dont like about her is that her core mechanic is basically a bug so it can be hard for people to know what she does sometimes. That and her 492384234 dashes of course lol.

Mr Broken Wings3 votes

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Most Riven mains I see are pretty nice actually. The only thing I dont like about her is that her core mechanic is basically a bug so it can be hard for people to know what she does sometimes. That and her 492384234 dashes of course lol.

Riot could enhance that aspect of her kit and make it more obvious what she does and when she does it. I mean they did it with the walljump thing, they could probably make her aa cancel noobfriendly as well. ( I personally DONT think thats a good idea because that would make her playerbase bigger and would result in a gigantic qq of silver elo but hey I can see why you think that). Also her aa cancel is overrated as fuck, its half to 1 aa in a whole combo more, people are acting like you are 10x stronger when you do it correctly, thats just blatantly wrong and people fokus way too much on it when talking about rivens state. Also animationcancelling isnt only a thing riven does, people tend to forget that a lot. I can see why her dashes can end up being frustrating, mobility in general tends to do that!

Penns1 votes

Well its not just the aa cancel tho, the fact that she can cast 2 spells at the same time as long as she does it ~1 second after casting E is pretty confusing if you dont know about it because it doesnt really make sense. Many champs can cancel something but its not as hard or impactful.

cinomenapplebae3 votes

people still think shes like the 2014 riven since they don't see her played anymore and when they do see her played and the riven playing against them does bad they just think that the riven is a bad player and riven is still broken

adidas3 votes

People hate riven because 99% of the time you have a riven or fight a riven, they are toxic and cuss out their teammates..

People didnt say ''oh hey lets hate riven for no reason'' no.

I literally have a foldier of my last 30 games with rivens in them and every one of them have said something ranging from ''WTF JUNGLER'' to ''ez''

Ive played with maybe 2 rivens out of 50 that havent said anything toxic.

Ralanr3 votes

I still think she does damage. What makes you think she doesn't?

Edit: Downvoted for a question. Nice.

Reikken1 votes

I am downvoting you for being downvoted.

Cosmochris1 votes

LOL i upvoted you but don't think it matters. Champions these days are doing more dmg than they have before with the constant buffs/changes/itemization/etc with the exception of a few that includes riven since they haven't done anything to her at all lately and therefor if you don't build tanky as riven, then you're pretty much useless as you just get 1 shotted if you even try to get near team fights and if you build tank you have less dmg which also makes you useless. I play riven a lot so I know that for some reason I do less dmg than i should. You should watch riven plays from season 5 and before and compare them to riven plays in season 6.

Ralanr1 votes

Ok, so why should we buff Riven's damage when everyone's damage output is high?

This would only make her a problem if they decrease damage across the board.

Cosmochris1 votes

I never said she needed a buff lol I'm just counter arguing all the riven hate due to the buffs she's getting

Elros Thranduil2 votes

WHY? BECAUSE,

She is broken. Its extremely hard to kill her 1vs1 if the player behind Riven knows how to abuse her kit.

its doable, I was able to win against her. Problem with Riven is that she has:

  • easy escape due to the riddiculous mobility, where the only skill is to use 3rd Q to escape over wall (which if she does is irritating as hell)
  • 1vs2 potential when she gets ganked due to
  • nonexistant cooldowns and no resources
  • no cd/no resource mobility
  • not vulnerable to exhaust - it doesn't slow her at all since she is not walking but jumping, and she can always wait till exhaust gets off before she release ultimate to execute you. Also since her ultimate is ranged, you can't use exhaust on her when she release ultimate, either you are too far to click exhaust on her, or you are too close to have a time to react (and if you use exhaust on her before she release ult, then as I said, she can just wait till it wears off)

If you play vs player who plays Riven for the first time, its easy to beat him. Its even possible to outplay Riven by flashing over her ultimate and few champions gives Riven very hard time (Quinn, Kennnen).

But, smart player who knows all the tricks can abuse Riven kit so hard. He can zone you from farm and freeze it easily. Or he can push and roam, clear your full jungle before you slowly clear the wave under tower because you obviously can't fight Riven anywhere else. In fact, Riven can tp bot, get easy double with ranged ultimate execute and then recall and get back to lane before you will be able to push the lane with your Maokai/Malphite/whatever. Her no cd no resource mobility is just toxic. Allows her to outlevel you via taking jungle camps between moving to lane/roaming. Sure, plenty of champions can do that, but Riven can do it without losing health, time and resources.

I absolutely hate this champion and Im just glad she is not in meta right now so I don't have to ban her, because lets face it, there isn't enough bans to ban champions like Riven, who are broken only in high elo in right hands.

Mr Broken Wings3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Elros Thranduil,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xzUwQH6Z,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-20T20:23:19.202+0000)

WHY? BECAUSE,

She is broken. Its extremely hard to kill her 1vs1 if the player behind Riven knows how to abuse her kit.

its doable, I was able to win against her. Problem with Riven is that she has:

  • easy escape due to the riddiculous mobility, where the only skill is to use 3rd Q to escape over wall (which if she does is irritating as hell) --> there are champions with more mobility. All her spells have a range equal to 1 ezreal e. Ekko or zed are far more ridicilous.
  • 1vs2 potential when she gets ganked due to --> if riven can 1v 2 you while you gank her you either are really really awful at this game or she is already ahead, in which case a lot of champions could do that.
  • nonexistant cooldowns and no resources --> cooldowns are high in the earlygame, riven just builds max cdr everygame, its like saying " lol jhin has too much ad because he builds ad)
  • no cd/no resource mobility ---> you repeat yourself.
  • not vulnerable to exhaust - she has a burst kit and is more effected in her combo by exhaust then other champions, this point is also wrong.

If you play vs player who plays Riven for the first time, its easy to beat him. Its even possible to outplay Riven by flashing over her ultimate and few champions gives Riven very hard time (Quinn, Kennnen). Yeah you are right she has A LOT of unfavorable matchups and has to play from behind in most matchups. Makes her broken I guess hehe xd.

I absolutely hate this champion and Im just glad she is not in meta right now so I don't have to ban her, because lets face it, there isn't enough bans to ban champions like Riven, who are broken only in high elo in right hands. --> in high elo people start trolling just because you picked her because she is considered to be a worse fiora and unviable. She is NOT autowinning games when played correctly, actually her predictable laning and squishy nature on toplane make her an easy target for junglers that are not idiots. So nope, your view that she is broken in high elo is wrong, there are a few riven mains left in high elo, people would spam her if she would be good, people dont, pretty much the contraire.

---> ^ Thats why riven is hated, because people are bad and some people legit believe what this guy is trying to say in his post.

Apocalypsic2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Elros Thranduil,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xzUwQH6Z,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-20T20:23:19.202+0000)

  • not vulnerable to exhaust - it doesn't slow her at all since she is not walking but jumping, and she can always wait till exhaust gets off before she release ultimate to execute you. Also since her ultimate is ranged, you can't use exhaust on her when she release ultimate, either you are too far to click exhaust on her, or you are too close to have a time to react (and if you use exhaust on her before she release ult, then as I said, she can just wait till it wears off)

I kinda hate to be that guy, but you're flat wrong there.

Exhaust destroys Riven, you must not be timing it well.

Cosmochris1 votes

You must have not seen a riven in your games once. Congrats my dude. You even contradicted yourself at the end lol... You can watch box box riven games and read what you just posted here again

xXxAltaïrrxXx1 votes

Yep she must be weak.Thats why there are multiple riven mains in high master/challenger NA rank.

Sometimes I feel like this when I read posts on this forums: http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2015/07/So-Stupid.gif?gs=a

Mr Broken Wings3 votes

{quoted}

Yep she must be weak.Thats why there are multiple riven mains in high master/challenger NA rank.

Sometimes I feel like this when I read posts on this forums: http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2015/07/So-Stupid.gif?gs=a

There is a full ap tryndamere main in high diamond on korea, makes ap tryn viable and good I guess.

xXxAltaïrrxXx1 votes

I said "multiple" not one, and there is huge difference between high dia and high master/challenger.U can see her a lot in diamond 5-1.She is at 51% winrate with 10,5% playrate in plat+.

Edit:U are a Riven man, ofc u are unbiased(sarcasm).

Veltox1 votes

Can't stand playing against that kit no matter if she is broken or not.

YJRBqwXJcS1 votes

welcome to the world of a fizz main

thats why i switched over to ezreal without iceborne gauntlet.

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