Dear Riot: if you're going to make it so lux can pre-detonate e, lower the speed

I Main Swain··11 votes·765 views

it's already hard enough to dodge her e, but now that she can pre-detonate it there will be no dodging unless you either juke her or have 450+ ms. please, please make it easier to avoid.

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Midnight Fox5 votes

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Made me think of this when you said "Premature Detonation."

The Bard Dog4 votes

hey hey hey hey

how about instead of crying about lux's buffs, you wait until you actually get to see what they do on live. lux is still very weak to hard initiates and assassins in general.

I Main Swain4 votes

she also has massive range, good cc, huge burst, and a shield. those hard initiates are incredibly hard to actually get on her considering her range. I don't need to see how it is in game to know that even as is it's hard to dodge her e short of her missing or you being crazy fast/using a dash.

Creamy Eevee3 votes

if you're in range to be hit by it maybe you should buy boots and stop walking predictably

Mafia LeBlanc6 votes

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if you're in range to be hit by it maybe you should buy boots and stop walking predictably

That would be fine advice if "in range" didn't mean merely being present in lane. You can't even leech xp from minions without being in range. Lux is one of the more irritating champions, and removing ways of fighting back a champion who already can farm in almost complete safety is not really a great idea..

FistOfSharkiesha3 votes

It has one of the highest missile speeds in the game for that massive radius. Even with 450+ ms it's still a toss up if you're going to dodge it.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

I played Cassiopeia mid against Lux

My first item back was item 3009 + Alacrity

But yeah, it's almost impossible to dodge her E without mobility. I like how she can effectively poke you down, but these buffs aren't what she needs and most people might just call her OP since it's going to be near actually impossible to dodge her E poke. They can go about buffing Lux in a lot of ways, she doesn't need huge ones by any means, just something to push her a bit. She's not a bad pick either, just there are other Mages who are more reliable.

I Main Swain2 votes

my problem with her is the fact that she's so powerful while simultaneously safe enough to be able to viably build and stack mejais on a regular basis

Sightless663 votes

She's... not really so powerful. She's really just kind of average. This shouldn't really change much playing against Lux players with low ping because they could nearly instantly detonate it anyway. I've played against it on the PBE. It's really not much different to play against than it is now on live.

I Main Swain1 votes

im not saying she's super op or anything, I think she's fine as is which is why I think they should reduce the projectile speed to compensate for her being able to pre-detonate. and actually, at least in my experience as someone with fairly low ping most of the time, I often have a problem detonating her e very quickly yet it still hits almost every time.

Sightless661 votes

I think that since she's on the low end of average, she can take small buffs like this without needing a nerf. They're pretty small buffs unless you're playing in a high-ping environment. Compensation nerfs aren't needed because she isn't strong enough to justify them.

When I get to play with 60 or 40 ping, I can instantly detonate the E. It would detonate almost imperceptably quicker if I could predetonate it. Not enough of a difference to justify a nerf. Any change you gave to the projectile speed would make it harder to hit than it is right now. She doesn't need that power decrease.

I'm guaranteeing you, this change isn't going to push Lux over any boundaries. She can get the buffs and nothing else, and she'll still be perfectly fine.

I Main Swain1 votes

lets agree to disagree on lux's power

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

Her passive gives her 20% extra ap ratio after each ability and a fairly large base bonus damage as well. She's incredibly strong, safe, and reliable (her E is impossible to dodge).

Sightless662 votes

Her passive gives her 20% extra ap ratio after each ability and a fairly large base bonus damage as well.

Did I say it didn't? I'm aware of what her kit does. I said she was average while taking that into consideration. Even with her passive, she's just average. Lowish average. There are quite a few champions who are generally better than her.

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

I was just mentioning it because a lot of people overlook it. Her passived used after each damaging ability has as much damage as a full basic ability. No need to be such a fucking cunt. She is about mid damage with a lot of utility and absurd range.

I Main Swain1 votes

on a completely unrelated topic, have you ever tried cass top? i just bought her a few days ago and I've been taking her top with some success, but i don't know if i'm just getting lucky or if it's actually really good.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Most top laners can't really poke you effectively, and since a lot of them are melee it's easy to get your stacks up. The only thing is that they're more tanky obviously so poking them is a lot less effective. It can be pretty good depending on who you were up against and I don't see a problem with building Cass a bit tanky too.

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

Mercury's treads are 95% of the time better than boots of swiftness. Only champ I'm aware of that goes boots of swiftness is Singed.

Lugg1 votes

I don't think it's that fast, but a slight nerf to the speed would make sense with the buff.

I Main Swain2 votes

yeah it isn't super fast or anything but the buff they're putting in is going to make her e impossible to dodge on any good lux.

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