executioners calling now costs 800 gold and applies GW on each hit for 3 sec

I Main Swain·Nov 6, 2015·102 votes·3,485 views

brb changing summoner name

61 Comments

undesirable teamNov 6, 201524 votes

R.I.P Aatrox Ahri Akali Alistar Bard Cassiopeia Chogath Darius DrMundo Fiddlesticks Fiora Galio Gangplank Garen Gragas Hecarim Irelia Kayle Khazix Kindred Lissandra Maokai MasterYi Morgana Nami Nasus Nidalee Nocturne Nunu Olaf RekSai Renekton Rengar Singed Soraka Swain Taric Trundle Tryndamere Volibear Warwick Yorick Everyone with a build in heal.. RIP them ;-; Most of em' wont notice much, but Swain Warwick Aatrox Vladimir Garen Soraka DrMundo gg

BattleOxeNov 6, 201517 votes

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R.I.P Everyone with a build in heal.. RIP them ;-; Most of em' wont notice much, but gg

DrMundo

I Main SwainNov 6, 20157 votes

tbh i wouldnt have included a lot of them in there just because many of those heals are minimal and/or only occasional. (also, does grevious wounds effect life steal?) either way, its annoying as crap. im sure it will be fixed before its released, because that will make a good 1/5 or more of the champs just sucky to play as.

Dangerous ManNov 6, 20153 votes

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tbh i wouldnt have included a lot of them in there just because many of those heals are minimal and/or only occasional. (also, does grevious wounds effect life steal?) either way, its annoying as crap. im sure it will be fixed before its released, because that will make a good 1/5 or more of the champs just sucky to play as.

It affects life steal, spell vamp, health regen, soraka ;=;

ModWulf HelhammerNov 6, 20152 votes

No, the only way it affects Soraka is her self heal. They changed grevious wounds to be only self healing

BattleOxeNov 7, 20153 votes

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No, the only way it affects Soraka is her self heal. They changed grevious wounds to be only self healing

Really? So, soraka is now even more OP because you can get 18% bonus heals from masteries? Yay, RIOT didn't kill my favourite support

ModWulf HelhammerNov 7, 20151 votes

So I've heard

KrinuNov 7, 20151 votes

https://twitter.com/ReinaSweet/status/662055048369717248

Soraka will have her self-heal from her Q reduced if she's suffering from GW, but otherwise she's looking at a really big buff. The combination of item consolidation (SS merged with GI item allowing for more AP), GW change (no more reduced external healing), and huge healing buffs in masteries far outweighs the slight nerf to her self-healing if she's poked.

For CarthageNov 7, 20153 votes

Except when she gets hit once by the enemy ADC and then quickly runs out of health on top of having minimal healing to herself.

Then you're dead as fuuuuuug.

BattleOxeNov 7, 20156 votes

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Except when she gets hit once by the enemy ADC and then quickly runs out of health on top of having minimal healing to herself.

Then you're dead as fuuuuuug.

Well, if enemy ADC hits you, you're probably so much out of position that you're dead anyway

RisenDarkKnightNov 7, 20152 votes

What if the enemy adc is twitch?

For CarthageNov 8, 20151 votes

Or any ADC builds the range-extension item.

No idea how you're going to avoid a 1200 range shot from the blue.

BoxpencilNov 7, 20151 votes

Mundo should have a passive where he is invulnerable to Grievous wounds. Well, I mean, if they really do release Executioner's calling.

SpongebobIsLifeNov 7, 20151 votes

uh why is singed in there? llol

SinlaireNov 7, 20151 votes

his ult heals him

Kitty von TunaNov 8, 20151 votes

No it doesn't really heal him. It gives him more health regen

I Main SwainNov 8, 20152 votes

what do you think health regen does if it doesnt heal you?

Kitty von TunaNov 9, 20151 votes

Health regen doesn't count as a heal.

THEJJSLAYNov 7, 20152 votes

Akali just lost what little she had going for her outside of generic assasin

ScrimshäwNov 7, 20152 votes

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R.I.P Everyone with a build in heal.. RIP them ;-; Most of em' wont notice much, but gg

someone tell me why garen is in that list

EarthpineNov 7, 20152 votes

Passive

PikmintsNov 7, 20152 votes

Funny thing about that is Mortal Reminder's the only item whose GW lasts long enough to effect his passive. Even then, Garen only has his healing reduced for one second.

EarthpineNov 8, 20151 votes

Yeah I know it doesn't do much but I was just saying the healing Garen has.

ScrimshäwNov 8, 20151 votes

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Passive

that thing that deactivates the second you enter combat...?

how is grievous wounds a counter to that

EarthpineNov 8, 20151 votes

I was saying the healing Garen has, not how it helps him or stuff.

Starblaster11Nov 7, 20151 votes

You forgot the flubber man. (Aww I can't put champion or item pictures on mobile.)

RikariNov 7, 20152 votes

I'm pretty sure any attack will stop garens heal

Blue Moon WolfNov 8, 20151 votes

From what I've heard, grievous wound will only effect self heal, so some of those will come out more or less okay since they mostly heal other champs, but champs like Aatrox and Ults like DrMundo 's or Trundle 's, the counter will pretty much be hit them more with Executioners. I will not be surprised if we see Mid mages build it just so their AA's limit healing from an enemy mid who has self healing. I think the simple fix would be to change it's effect to only healing done from lifesteal and spell vamp, since I think it's intent is to counter item 1053 anyway.

Over InnsmouthNov 7, 20156 votes

As a Vlad main and an on-the-side Swain lover, this is the one change I have a major problem with. Even Morello's is only below 40% hp and Ignite is only up once every so often.

It'd be nice if Riot compensated Champs who'll be fucked by this with some damage buffs (to offset the sustain nerfs), but we all know what happens when Riot uses the word compensate... item 3070 Veigar

I Main SwainNov 7, 20153 votes

they dont need damage buffs, imo their damage is pretty heavy right now, and more would be overbearing. what they need to do is first of all nerf the executioners calling in with the cost and/or the GW, and second either increase the power of self-healing abilities or increase their tankiness by a TON to compensate for the huge sustain loss they will get.

Over InnsmouthNov 8, 20151 votes

You're probably more right. Sustain is what individualizes certain champs, don't wanna just turn them into another AoE DPS mage. GW without conditional points (Varus E being only in that area, Morello's having the 40% hp bar) is absurd.

Z StatisticNov 7, 20154 votes

GW only affects self-healing on PBE.

I Main SwainNov 7, 201563 votes

pretty dang sure swains ult is a self heal

RyzeReworkNov 7, 20152 votes

I'm sorry that this 3rd or 4th item build does what Morello does without giving them cdr mana regeneration and a ass ton of ap

RisenDarkKnightNov 7, 20151 votes

It's not nearly the same. Morellos only applies when the target is below 40% hp on spell hits, not autos. Against a skillshot heavy champ, you can dodge the spells and avoid the grievous wounds, or just use your sustain when you're 50% or above hp.

Kitten of EvilNov 7, 20151 votes

Morellos costs 2300 (and they may even be raising that price). The new EC will cost 800. Very easy for anyone top-lane to rush if they see Vladimir Swain DrMundo Aatrox

RyzeReworkNov 7, 20151 votes

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Morellos costs 2300 (and they may even be raising that price). The new EC will cost 800. Very easy for anyone top-lane to rush if they see

So now there's counter play instead of sitting there while vlad q's minions tell he's full hp and top lane champions don't tend to be ranged and wouldn't waste 800 gold for the item because the upgraded version is useless to tanks or even most aa top laners which leave it to really only be useful on riven and fiora it has horrible stats and not good enough to buy unless your facing champions that have heals and high regen

I Main SwainNov 8, 20151 votes

yeah, because its balanced to have your healing halved no matter your hp for a rather long time, all for the cost of 800 g

RyzeReworkNov 8, 20151 votes

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yeah, because its balanced to have your healing halved no matter your hp for a rather long time, all for the cost of 800 g

Your right it's more balances to have a vlad or swain nearly 1v5 your team while being tank having self heal and lots of damnage

I Main SwainNov 9, 20151 votes

if they are able to successfully 1v5 your team youre doing something very wrong

RyzeReworkNov 10, 20151 votes

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if they are able to successfully 1v5 your team youre doing something very wrong

Lol I've gotten 1v5 penta kills and Quadra kills with vlad while being Tanky and healing so much the only Time I lose with vlad is when my team feeds horrible he has such an easy laning phase an amazing lategame and no real problem split pushing with will of the ancients and Rylai's your nearly unkillavle with your kiting potential then when u get hourglass and spirit Visage your now so Tanky and have so much burst that ur eq does half someone's health and heals you for so much not to mention besides fiddlesticks with hourglass he's the only champion that can turret dive u and not take damnage while consistently dealing damnage to you. Oh and u get more ap the tankier you are and vice versa

I Main SwainNov 10, 20151 votes

first off, vlad does have that power but imo his late game damage is too high anyways. second, your spelling and grammar gave me cancer. third, fiddle isn't the only champ that can turret dive you without taking damage (especially if you include using zhonyas, which you really shouldn't)

Kuroi86Nov 7, 20152 votes

A situational item that's going to be more effective against enemy ADC than against any other healing unit.

LordGeovanniNov 7, 20151 votes

can we revert warmogs back to healing % of max hp ad make it 2% its gonna get hit by the executioners anyway and the other one that gives 1.5 damage per 100 hp diffrence. and and some time in the future give warmogs back its 1000 hp. idk how you can change one side without seeing what those changes will effect at the same time

SquidblimpNov 7, 20151 votes

I main Zac. I'm going to be half as tanky. RIP.