@Meddler Is the ruined king ever going to be a champion ?

Yi Bencheikh··15 votes·5,994 views

I don't know much about lol's lore however while watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yiB46-0u6U 6:24 the ghost says '' the king will return for it '' So is there a chance to see him around ? and yorick was talking as if that ruined king is still alive .

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RiotMeddler26 votes

Maybe.

We've talked quite a bit about whether we should make the Ruined King as a champion. We're open to the idea, but don't want to do so just for the sake of doing so (need the right execution basically and want to avoid making him just to tick a box). We actually looked at one point into whether Yorick himself should be the Ruined King in disguise (a King Lear sort of thing), before concluding that didn't do proper service to the Ruined King's concept or Yorick's concept.

TLDR: Could definitely happen someday, not going to rush it though.

Brutusness1 votes

The only problem I can see is you already have at least three champions (Tahm Kench, Wukong, Tryndamere) with the title "The ___ King". Maybe change it up if you ever do him?

Xenos von Faneli1 votes

I mean there's 132 champs currently, so 4 kings isn't that weird

DarkRitual2 votes

We need 10 Kings. Regicide game mode bitches!

BloodyTompon2 votes

http://aok.heavengames.com/images/news-archives/king1.gif

The little bastard always hides in castle when I play Regicide :/ I feel like I can blame Ghostcrawler for that since he worked on that franchise.

DarkRitual1 votes

You obviously needed more Wololo.

BloodyTompon1 votes

Of corse I do. One can never have to much Wololo

Yi Bencheikh8 votes

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Maybe.

We've talked quite a bit about whether we should make the Ruined King as a champion. We're open to the idea, but don't want to do so just for the sake of doing so (need the right execution basically and want to avoid making him just to tick a box). We actually looked at one point into whether Yorick himself should be the Ruined King in disguise (a King Lear sort of thing), before concluding that didn't do proper service to the Ruined King's concept or Yorick's concept.

TLDR: Could definitely happen someday, not going to rush it though.

maybe happens someday is better than nothing isn't it ? thanks for the reply althought i really want to see another champion that really looks like a human warrior like Garen or Irelia Fiora , the latest champion that was a casual human fighter is Yasuo which is almost 3 years ago illaoi is a human but she wields a weird tentacle ball , so is there a possiblity for us to see again a champion that looks casual like Fiora Garen ?
how about helmet bro ?

DesolationKaizer1 votes

Yeah, I feel like it has been too long since we've gotten another kinda traditional human warrior. Would be nice to see one in the near future wiith an interesting spin (spellsword pls)

Thales1 votes

Touching on what you say about not doing him just to tick a box, how in modern design would you convey that a certain character is a really big deal? It seems odd that some guard who happened to be standing in the room (Hecarim) ends up able to effortlessly trample the Ruined King himself. For balance reasons, this must be allowed, but then how does the Ruined King feel suitably impressive? Certainly, VO and visuals can help, but are there any mechanical tools which can be used to make a character feel more powerful without actually making them so?

RiotMeddler3 votes

I think certain playstyles do lend themselves towards feelings of 'I'm a big deal' more than others. Characters that affect large areas, that have a stronger effective impact on team decisions or that have really exaggerated high moments tend to deliver on that somewhat. Azir's a really good example. He's generally around the power level of any other champion, but he does capture some of that 'Ruler of a giant empire' feeling in game.

There's certainly going to be some degree of disconnect between status in the world and state in a game of LoL though. To some extent that's just a needed fiction if you want a really varied cast able to fairly compete with each other (e.g. Graves the outlaw with a gun versus Bard the unknowable cosmic caretaker) and gameplay effects that aren't excessively limited (e.g. regular humans not getting killed by a single Caitlyn headshot).

Brutusness1 votes

Speaking of possible champions that give off a big presence, have you ever thought of reviving the character of Magnus Dunderson from the old League lore? Right now in LoL we don't have a villainous champion based on a cunning corporate exec, and he would be perfect for that. A less serious and yet very powerful higher-up with his own tech weapons. We need a CEO type guy in League.

BloodyTompon3 votes

Mundo!

Thales3 votes

Fair point on Azir; his passive tower raising I think is one of the best abilities in terms of impressiveness:power budget ratio.

To what extent do you think this is easier to accomplish on champions who don't primarily offer damage? Bard, Poppy, and Sion all have some huge high moments that affect how the teams play in ways more profound than "Oh, that champ's doing a lot of damage. Better make them stop that."

Earl Eulrich1 votes

Azir's a really good example. He's generally around the power level of any other champion,

if any other champion´s powerlevel is being either pick or banned in proplay 100%of the time or being never seen on the rift at all...

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Maybe a poor example.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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Maybe.

We've talked quite a bit about whether we should make the Ruined King as a champion. We're open to the idea, but don't want to do so just for the sake of doing so (need the right execution basically and want to avoid making him just to tick a box). We actually looked at one point into whether Yorick himself should be the Ruined King in disguise (a King Lear sort of thing), before concluding that didn't do proper service to the Ruined King's concept or Yorick's concept.

TLDR: Could definitely happen someday, not going to rush it though.

but but what happens if the ruined king buys his blade? do we get some sort of a special interaction?

though it would be cool if the ruined king was some sort of involved in an ability. or a game mode. as a boss . or like baron nashor.

Xenos von Faneli2 votes

he'd probably be like "ahh, how i've missed this" or "Oh, so that's where it went"

RiotMeddler5 votes

If we made the Ruined King as a champ I'm sure we'd get at minimum some VO in for Blade of the Ruined King purchases, maybe some other form of easter egg too.

Using the Ruined King as something other than a champion, like a boss or game mode feature or whatever, is also one of the reasons he's a 'maybe' rather than a 'we really want to and just need to find the right time/concept'. Some ideas may be better realized as non player controlled characters than as regular champions and we're still figuring out what we think's best for the Ruined King.

warpenguin5551 votes

So you guys want to use him in game but just cant decide what yet? Cool, Is it the same for the watchers?

RiotMeddler2 votes

Harder to say on the watchers, in part because we've talked less about them. Couldn't rule it out, but wouldn't consider it as likely an idea at least at the moment.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

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Harder to say on the watchers, in part because we've talked less about them. Couldn't rule it out, but wouldn't consider it as likely an idea at least at the moment.

are we going to see simple straight forward champions. i mean am not saying i dont like the heavily worked on specifics of jihn and kled for example. both have very deep interesting abilities. and the ways you can use their kit. but I don't know i would like a simple straight forward champion every once in a while. we haven't had one of those since. maybe braum in 2014. hes a little bit more involved than the simpler champions. but something on that level. a champion thats more focused on its own lane if you know what i mean.

WarWork1 votes

What about other darkin and trolls? (don't think it's possible for braken and ursine because skarner and volibear designs are relatively plane with their identities being almost completely tied to their species)

iTzYaBoyJohnCena1 votes

Hey, you should make a champion where his ult makes all of his abilities off CD and his Q should beable to insta kill people and his W should make him invincible for what a few minutes and his E should be 1000 hp everytime he gets CS. And if you think about it it's pretty balanced like all of league's champions :D

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

The watchers as models for DOOM BOTS maybe?

Hinagiku336 votes

NPCs and Bosses are can be some of the best characters in games.

I'm totally in favor of making the Ruined King some kind of boss fight...especially a modified Twisted Treeline for some kind of special game mode...

Decrit1 votes

Maaaaaaaybe in place of Vilemaw for a game mode?

arc951 votes

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If we made the Ruined King as a champ I'm sure we'd get at minimum some VO in for Blade of the Ruined King purchases, maybe some other form of easter egg too.

Using the Ruined King as something other than a champion, like a boss or game mode feature or whatever, is also one of the reasons he's a 'maybe' rather than a 'we really want to and just need to find the right time/concept'. Some ideas may be better realized as non player controlled characters than as regular champions and we're still figuring out what we think's best for the Ruined King.

What about incorporating the Ruined king in TT... Like Baron and dragon in SR it would be Vilemaw and the Ruined king in TT?

GULAG 4 U1 votes

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but but what happens if the ruined king buys his blade? do we get some sort of a special interaction?

though it would be cool if the ruined king was some sort of involved in an ability. or a game mode. as a boss . or like baron nashor.

He would prolly be a champion that needs it as his core lol.

Eternvl1 votes

Does that mean Kog'Maws dad might be an actual champion?

TranscendVirtual1 votes

Kog'maws dad is Malzahar

The Undine1 votes

similar visage to morde, with chilling deep voice.

hell yea

ReZisT Lust1 votes

Fully upgradable items from custom boots to his crown he can choose items from the rift or his personal collection he brought

kitcat3002 votes

Funny, I'm having flashbacks to when this was said about Lissandra.

Hahahahyena2 votes

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TLDR: Could definitely happen someday, not going to rush it though.

quality better than quantity i like it

LitAF1 votes

its a secret shhh dont talk about it the illuminati will come after you

Oleandervine1 votes

I personally don't think the King should ever be a playable champion. He's too mythic in Shadow Isles lore, and making him playable would diminish his presence. He would work best as something like the Baron or Vilemaw or even the Poro King in a special event, but I don't think making him playable is the way to go. There needs to be myths and legends that even champions admire and fear.

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