Sion vs 100 gauntlet

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The old meta was suicide Sion building % hp damage to stack with his passive, which made for a very quick 30 kill quota, but last match I noticed 1 auto barely did even 100 damage to them. Wasn't like they had a massive amount of armor, only ~60-ish which my 1 auto barely did any damage even with BORK. Did something change this time round?

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TheLastShadow452 votes

A quote from my comment to riot about in their RGM brain dump.

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That might be true this time around, but they're both tough "feast or famine" balancing acts. If we err too far on the famine side, they feel kinda bad to play. However the way bot AI logic ignores them, means if they are of any consequence at all, they become a 'must pick'. Then players aren't really picking them to "have fun playing Sion", they're doing it to exploit a bug and trivialise Lv100. :(

I agree though, I'm not sure it feels great to die, become a zombie, then do pretty much nothing. We might pull this for the next time round on Doom Bots and explore another solution that doesn't feel like a "trap" to play.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

thing is, not just sion but EVEN BORK was doing close to no damage for some reason which made me wonder about it.

Fondling Gems2 votes

Sion and Karthus both has damage nerfs while in passive, I believe blade works against the bots but Teemo is considered a neutral monster (hence why you can smite him) so the damage is capped.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

i know about the effect of BORK on monsters, however I was doing little to no damage on the champs themselves (i.e. the cait with crit build actually outdamaged me per hit even with the monstrous hp the bots have).

Fondling Gems1 votes

I think they reduce % health damage, because otherwise Vayne would kill any bot at any point in the game quite easily.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

Well, it was standard to go BoRK+Bloodrazor in doombots because even their ADC ends up with like 3k HP (and their Cho... obscene). Not too sure what the new strat for level 100 will be now, coz I only barely came close to winning the old one with a meta team, pretty sure it would be impossible now since they nerfed only winning method. Not that this mode was made to be balanced anyway.

Fondling Gems1 votes

I know one group won it as 5 randoms. The strat revolves around an Anivia midlane, Kogmaw and 1 other ADC, then more waveclear.

They actually beat it with a suboptimal team of Ashe, Kog, Jinx, 1 other adc, and Anivia. Anivia holds mid, when one of the lanes loses a turret the two remaining champions split between the other two lanes with the one with better waveclear going mid.

Anivia hard stalls the game out with her ult and W walls (which mess up bots a lot) When Teemo spawns it comes down to the ADC's to win.


Also note that there is a bug where Ezreal can stand in raptor pit when Teemo spawns and hit him with Q's. Since Ez Q doesn't grant vision the bots can't attack back other than Teemo shroom of doom, which is quite easy to avoid.

Teemo will just stand there unable to path to Ezreal until he dies.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

interesting, I have to try this. thanks for the tip

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