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Penns8 votes

Lucian gets instakilled by 3 crits, 1 armor item tank gets attacked for 20s and still almost half hp.. "tanks die too fast" in 2k16 LUL

Marshbouy1 votes

This is is why no one should ever take the "omg tanks die in 2 seconds" posts seriously.

Penns3 votes

Yeah but Im sure he wouldve shred her instantly with Lord Dominiks. In the end, its a broken item that wouldve reduced her armor from 150 to 115 Kappa

Rivuo1 votes

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Yeah but Im sure he wouldve shred her instantly with Lord Dominiks. In the end, its a broken item that wouldve reduced her armor from 150 to 115 Kappa

kappa

Marshbouy1 votes

Yeah tanks should be able to negate all damage taken and be invincible. kappa

Best princess EU3 votes

lvl 13 poppy vs lvl 11 draven without a last whisper item

draven should have won the 1v1

riot is terrible at balance they make one tank unkillable

this means the entire tank roster is overpowered

Incarceration1 votes

I'll add the kappa for you.

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lvl 13 poppy vs lvl 11 draven without a last whisper item

draven should have won the 1v1

riot is terrible at balance they make one tank unkillable

this means the entire tank roster is overpowered

Kappa

Best princess EU1 votes

yeah forgot it sry i'm bad at sarcasm

but you can see how adc mains want to win every single 1v1 despite the enemy tank having an advantage

Irelia Bot2 votes

Well it's poppy so

Poppy is literally the only tank that seems to actually be able to tank like that these days in large part due to her passive shield and Steadfast Presence passive.

Riot seems to be planning on hitting at least the duration of her passive shield.

Also no last whisper item so her armor was in full effect.

Rivuo1 votes

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Well it's poppy so

Poppy is literally the only tank that seems to actually be able to tank like that these days in large part due to her passive shield and Steadfast Presence passive.

Riot seems to be planning on hitting at least the duration of her passive shield.

Also no last whisper item so her armor was in full effect.

no its anyone who builds ninja tabi + a tank item does the same thing

YoungFarmer2 votes

This video is super fucking biased. That poppy clearly has kills, as well as many armour items. And draven doesnt even have a LORD Ds if he had that I bet you he would have killed her. Its also poppy who is probably the best tank in the game RN

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-31T18:40:58.123+0000)

This video is super fucking biased.

That poppy clearly has kills,

And draven has 2 kills, in which he proccd his passive which gives him additional gold.

as well as many armour items.

She has 1 armor item.......

And draven doesnt even have a LORD Ds if he had that I bet you he would have killed her. Its also poppy who is probably the best tank in the game RN

Oh so you're going to pop a lord dom out your asshole midgame?

Nice

YoungFarmer2 votes

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And draven has 2 kills, in which he proccd his passive which gives him additional gold.

She has 1 armor item.......

Oh so you're going to pop a lord dom out your asshole midgame?

Nice

Last whisper which gives you 30% armour pen and only costs 1300

Rivuo2 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T18:54:02.802+0000)

Last whisper which gives you 30% armour pen and only costs 1300

30% of 150 is 45

150-45 is 105

That wouldve upped dravens damage by like 60.

Thats not sufficient

YoungFarmer1 votes

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30% of 150 is 45

150-45 is 105

That wouldve upped dravens damage by like 60.

Thats not sufficient

100 armour is 50% damage reduction. Poppys W passive also doubles when shes below 40% HP so like half that fight she actually had 225 armour. if you look at the video her armour is constantly spiking from between 165- 250 armour. Which is a lot of fucking armour, the could have easily been by passed with last whisper. 250 armour shreded by 30% is only 175

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T19:40:23.071+0000)

100 armour is 50% damage reduction. Poppys W passive also doubles when shes below 40% HP so like half that fight she actually had 225 armour. if you look at the video her armour is constantly spiking from between 165- 250 armour. Which is a lot of fucking armour, the could have easily been by passed with last whisper. 250 armour shreded by 30% is only 175

Last whisper on 250 armor will penetrate through 30% of 200 of it, which will leave poppy with 140 armor. As you saw the 140 armor poppy had still made dravens autos useless in the first half of the video ( you can clearly watch when she had 150 armor so use that as comparison )

tl;dr there is no difference.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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Last whisper on 250 armor will penetrate through 30% of 200 of it, which will leave poppy with 140 armor. As you saw the 140 armor poppy had still made dravens autos useless in the first half of the video ( you can clearly watch when she had 150 armor so use that as comparison )

tl;dr there is no difference.

Yah Poppy is broken, but that doesn't mean that ADCs don't fuck everyone else who doesn't have a passive that gives that 30% more armour.

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T19:57:11.047+0000)

Yah Poppy is broken, but that doesn't mean that ADCs don't fuck everyone else who doesn't have a passive that gives that 30% more armour.

In what elo are you in where adcs are dominating.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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In what elo are you in where adcs are dominating.

Higher Elo than you bro. Only 3 ADCS have a bad winrate, 1 of which is perma nerfed cause her design is toxic, the other is urgot and the other ones are getting buffed this patch.

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T20:17:47.025+0000)

Higher Elo than you bro. Only 3 ADCS have a bad winrate, 1 of which is perma nerfed cause her design is toxic, the other is urgot and the other ones are getting buffed this patch.

I'm plat 2 atm.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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I'm plat 2 atm.

According to the internet your silver 3, and you ended silver last season.

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ZurHölleDamit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xu29Z6VA,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T20:48:21.900+0000)

According to the internet your silver 3, and you ended silver last season.

This account is not ranked.

Here you go my friend

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/71323011

P3

Yet as we speak i asked you a question, in what elo are you in where adcs are dominating

YoungFarmer1 votes

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This account is not ranked.

Here you go my friend

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/71323011

P3

Yet as we speak i asked you a question, in what elo are you in where adcs are dominating

I ended plat 4 last season and still, think adcs are a problem. Yah sure they can get fucked by poppy, but they can 1 shot everything else.

Watch this video of a draven 1 shotting a full health poppy with only 100 hp left, see I can post videos too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsM0loQPOIY

Rivuo1 votes

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I ended plat 4 last season and still, think adcs are a problem. Yah sure they can get fucked by poppy, but they can 1 shot everything else.

Last season is a different season.

We're talking about now. You're silver 1 and i'm Plat 3. so dont bring up that rank bullshit to me because i dont judge you on your rank.

Show me this bullshit statement of yours that ''they can 1 shot everything else''

Show me.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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Last season is a different season.

We're talking about now. You're silver 1 and i'm Plat 3. so dont bring up that rank bullshit to me because i dont judge you on your rank.

Show me this bullshit statement of yours that ''they can 1 shot everything else''

Show me.

Alright let me go make a video...

YoungFarmer1 votes

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Last season is a different season.

We're talking about now. You're silver 1 and i'm Plat 3. so dont bring up that rank bullshit to me because i dont judge you on your rank.

Show me this bullshit statement of yours that ''they can 1 shot everything else''

Show me.

https://youtu.be/PW5_gRtxNeU?t=18m50s Best I can do on such short notice.

Catastrop1 votes

Do you people not know what LW does? It's bonus armour penetration. Any armour that isn't base armour, will be reduced. She'll have way more than 175 armour left either way, probably around 190-200 range.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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Do you people not know what LW does? It's bonus armour penetration. Any armour that isn't base armour, will be reduced. She'll have way more than 175 armour left either way, probably around 190-200 range.

45% bonus armour pen + 15% bonus damage. So basically you're losing 50% of all armour you purchased.

ForgiveColour2 votes

Funny thing is poppy would have killed draven if not for soraka LUL

Immortal spax1 votes

"tanks die too fast"

IcyPepper1 votes

What was Poppy's build? I kind of missed it.

ForgiveColour2 votes

Sunfire the only armor item poppy has

And visage and mercs

Tanks die way too fast to adc after they finish ie xDddddxdx

IcyPepper1 votes

To be fair, there's another side to this circlejerk coin: omergerd tanks do so much damage and blow ADC's up with no counterplay.

That Draven did quite well in that scenario, admittedly. Especially since midgame favors the tanks, supposedly?

ForgiveColour3 votes

If you watched the whole thing poppy would have killed draven if not for soraka. Tanks shouldnt be able to deal so much damage while being insanely tanky with just one armor item

IcyPepper4 votes

ADC's shouldn't be able to take a lot of damage while dealing an insane amount of damage either.

In the midgame, the ground's somewhat equal. It's lategame that an ADC should dominate a tank. Draven had no lifesteal yet.

Besides, the Poppy also had a health item. Just like how AS and AD go hand in hand with Draven's IE and PD, Poppy had health and armor.

Are tanks allowed to do duel at any point in the game, or are they just damage sponges? If they can't 1v1 at all being so tanky, shouldn't ADC's not be allowed to 1v1 without blowing up if they build glass cannon? There's a lot of questions to consider here.

Rivuo2 votes

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ADC's shouldn't be able to take a lot of damage while dealing an insane amount of damage either.

In the midgame, the ground's somewhat equal. It's lategame that an ADC should dominate a tank. Draven had no lifesteal yet.

Besides, the Poppy also had a health item. Just like how AS and AD go hand in hand with Draven's IE and PD, Poppy had health and armor.

Are tanks allowed to do duel at any point in the game, or are they just damage sponges? If they can't 1v1 at all being so tanky, shouldn't ADC's not be allowed to 1v1 without blowing up if they build glass cannon? There's a lot of questions to consider here.

The adc didnt take a lot of damage because he sidestepped so much shit.

Nobody should tank 30+ draven autos.

Nobody.

IcyPepper1 votes

The adc didnt take a lot of damage because he sidestepped so much shit.

I said he did quite well, I never said he soaked up a lot of damage. Although upon rewatching it, I saw his health bar go down in small increments as Poppy autoattacked him...

When are ADC's supposed to be weak anyway? Are tanks not allowed to outduel them in any scenario whatsoever?

Nameless Voice1 votes

I'm not sure if the point of the video is:

  1. Poppy is far too hard to kill
  2. Marksmen are far too hard to kill due to their sustain from Warlord's
  3. Lee Sin is in every game, and often just randomly jumps in and kills people

... though presumably it's all three.

YoungFarmer1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2387833236/213490917?tab=overview

There I played a game of ADC and despite basically never playing adc I did pretty damn good. Adcs don't need help and they are the strongest class.

Rivuo2 votes

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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2387833236/213490917?tab=overview

There I played a game of ADC and despite basically never playing adc I did pretty damn good. Adcs don't need help and they are the strongest class.

One game does not determine the stats to a whole subject.

I actually would like stop discussing this matter with you just because you actually thought adcs are in a good spot because you had ''one good game''

Pathetic.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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One game does not determine the stats to a whole subject.

I actually would like stop discussing this matter with you just because you actually thought adcs are in a good spot because you had ''one good game''

Pathetic.

ADCs are not bad, or in a bad spot. If they were they wouldn't be mandatory and in every game, and often in the jungle.

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