Skarner needs some love

kargish··2 votes·420 views

It's been almost 2½ years now since Skarner was part of the juggernaut patch, and he's still in the same shitty spot since then. I just don't get why it has continued to be like this, he's in concept a pretty neat champion but is overshadowed by his many many weaknesses and design flaws.

First of all; his passive is the most obnoxious thing in existance to deal with. While you're off your zones you're a worm, but when you're on them you're basically a super saiyan. I get that it's meant to make Skarner an objective controller, but even then people just stay out of his zones or ignore it, because Skarner doesn't have any relevant damage at all until he gets at least 2 damage items. His Q has NO base damage at all, it only has an AD+AP scaling (33%/36%/39%/42%/45% AD + 30% AP), and I don't think there's a single ability in League that is like this. You could argue that it's because it's spamable, but other spamable abilities can way more damage than this and those are usually ranged attacks too. His E doesn't have strong damage either (40-140 + 20% AP). So what does that leave us with? Once Skarner actually gets past the early game, he's a great champion that deals a lot of damage, with strong engage and heavy CC, but before that he has to endure being one of the weakest champions in the jungle. Anyone can outduel Skarner early game, some can even do it while he's on his super saiyan zones, and most champions also tend to clear fast than he does (again, no base damage on Q). If you compare Skarner to any of the other juggernauts, they can deal WAY more damage than Skarner and even tank more than he.

6 Comments

ZeroAgainst1 votes

give him a passive he can actually fucking use would be a great buff for him.

Furión1 votes

tbh i forgot he existed, kinda like volibear lol

I Hate Love You1 votes

Well,as a 1.2m skarner otp i can say that i m pretty jappy with skarner;s pasive.It s a unique and nice passive.He has lots of weaknesses,thats the truth.First of all,he has literally no scallling on his abilities.His damage is 85% from auto-atacks.And tbh i m pretty sure that this buff is gonna bring skarner back..and the meta will explode.Well.I ll abuse it,now i ll be able to stun a target for 5seconds wothout giving them a chance to flash,wich is insane.

kargish1 votes

The buffs certainly are welcome, but often with these types of champions you need to be a otp for them for work effectively (Mordekaiser Skarner Azir (pre-minirework)). Skarner has a pretty poor winrate right now, and whether you like his passive or not, I think we can both agree on that he's pumped with insane stats while on the zones but off the zones he loses to almost anyone due to 0 base damage on Q and a mere 40 damage on his E. Not to mention all his weird AP scalings, which was decent back when some items were meant to hybrid champions (item 3078 (old->)item 3124item 3146).

Shahamut1 votes

Revert please... riot admitted they failed with jugger-skarner...

PopcornBunni1 votes

Only change I'd want is if his spires gave the mana regen or attack speed to allies near them, to incentivize the control point subgame as a more relevant component he adds to the game.

He feels great even as an "ult-bot" just from the fun to be had maxing out speed and dragging fools around.

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