Hot take: Riven is harder to play against than to actually play

Mandarill·3/2/2019, 5:56:18 PM·110 votes·19,800 views

Next time a Riven [removed by moderation] main claims she takes a lot of skill, just remind them that its their opponents that have to deal with a hyper mobile, low cooldown, no resource required, tanky, cc loaded, AoE assassin.

112 Comments

ModThe Djinn3/3/2019, 6:31:02 PM17 votes

Hey guys. Sorry this one took us a while to edit.

To be clear, the Universal Rules prohibit shaming a player for their rank, playstyle, match history, and champion pool. While we understand that some players like to vent (and thus often don't action things like "mid laners always feel entitled to blue" or "junglers never play with the team" or "Kayn mains are edgelords"), we do draw a hard line at obvious insults like this post's "Riven monkeys mains." I'm leaving this post up to allow this pin to be seen, and because there is some discussion going on in the comments.

--The Djinn

AquariusGine3/2/2019, 6:53:06 PM12 votes

Riven is the harderest champion in the game

oortoomeebreesuu3/2/2019, 6:56:16 PM12 votes

It's like I'm seeing double.Riven MonkeyKing

Sir Saltarin3/2/2019, 10:52:37 PM12 votes

Riven takes skill to play, and yet she's too strong and should be nerfed.

Based adc main here.

Science of Death3/2/2019, 9:36:34 PM12 votes

Aatrox Riven 2.0 also takes skill but less rewarding.[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Corvin07163/2/2019, 9:12:38 PM11 votes

Okay, I am reporting this post now. It does not matter how you like or not a champion there is no validation for calling everyone a monkey who likes to play it. Who do you think you are?

Scrai3/2/2019, 9:17:07 PM10 votes

stfu u play daruis

Kelg3/2/2019, 6:47:27 PM8 votes

ya shes op

rtbf2256182413/3/2019, 4:42:33 PM8 votes

hyper mobile, low cooldown, no resource required, tanky, cc loaded, AoE assassin.

Also way to describe someone like Aatrox.

"Hyper mobile, no resource required, assassin with no counterplay"

Rengar Akali Yasuo

All of them have counterplay.

You're just using simple wording for a bandwagon. I, in Platinum elo, CAN NOT play Riven due to her dependency on her broken animation cancelling which i can't wrap my head around.

Sir Saltarin3/2/2019, 11:43:12 PM7 votes

Yikes so saying "Check OP username" may be taken as an indirect offensive comment and it's removed but calling Riven mains monkeys it's fine xD

@mods

Definety3/3/2019, 5:20:17 PM6 votes

Riven is fine. Make Conqueror have reduced healing on AoE spells and remove item 3161 from the game, and we're gucci 👌

Wadu Hek Man3/3/2019, 1:16:24 AM5 votes

I'm sick of hearing shit about "Riven isn't actually hard to play wah wah wah riot too op nerf now pls". How about instead of complaining about the champ, you try playing her in a ranked match above gold and see that, surprise surprise, its actually not as easy as it looks. A shit riven will be destroyed by almost any matchup top that isn't just a complete counterpick to the enemy laner, and obviously, that can be said about literally any top lane matchup. A decent Renekton, Darius, Garen, Camille, Nasus, Fiora, Irelia, hell, even a decent Yasuo, will beat a decent Riven. I would be willing to say that the majority of Riven mains above gold almost play her almost exclusively, and are very dedicated to the champion. So it probably makes a lot of sense that say, a really good Riven who has played the matchup 50+ times, will beat a pretty good Darius player who probably does not exclusively play Darius. In reality, Riven herself isn't the one who needs the nerf, its just that the people who are williing to play her above a certain elo are extremely dedicated to the champion, and are able to practice and learn the matchups and combos extremely well.

Dasdi963/2/2019, 9:28:23 PM4 votes

A lot of the new champions as well as champions like Zed Yasuo Vayne Darius have a high "opponent skill floor" which means they are very hard to play against, making them very op in low elo and especially against new players.

Akali Prime3/2/2019, 10:05:18 PM4 votes

everytime i see one post complaining about a champion i think to myself "oh god here it comes" and sure enough for the next 2 weeks everyone starts complaining about that champion until everyone gets bored then move on to the next champ

ive seen it happen with Zoe MonkeyKing Tristana Rengar Quinn Jhin Ezreal Aatrox Irelia Akali Yasuo Riven

in semi order (atleast thats the closest order i can get in my memory.)

sssaucyboi3/3/2019, 6:22:29 AM2 votes

Garen